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From: Detlef Steuer <detlef.steuer@gmx.de>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:01:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130913100125.257db23d@vknecht-intel.unibw-hamburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87wqmmos25.fsf@gmail.com

Hi!

> Hello,
> 
> Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
> 
> > So the question is should it be a default package?
> >
> > I think not.  E.g. tabu isn't loaded.  Amsmath isn't loaded if you
> > generate a matrix.
> 
> I think the "tabu" case (and longtable...) is different from "rotating".
> 
> No feature in Org requires "tabu" or "longtable" unless user explicitly
> writes "tabu" or "longtable" somewhere in the buffer (i.e.
> in :environment attribute).
> 
> On the other hand, "rotating" or "wrapfig" may be needed without the
> user knowing about it (e.g. when setting :float or :wrap attributes).
> 
> Therefore, I think "wrapfig" and "rotating" belong to the same boat.
> Either we require them both in default packages, or we do not require
> any and add a footnote about it in the manual. I have no preference.
> 

I think it is more consistent to provide these packages automagically.

There seems no downside besides slightly longer latex startup times.
Org already loads some default packages to perform its export magic.
Why not try to be "feature" complete in the sense Nicloas describes:
User doesn't try something special with latex, but uses
commands/options provided by org, so a bare bone export can be expected
work.

Personally I would appreciate it very much if org followed the
principle of least surprise in these cases, as these surprises tend to
show up, if time is running out ;-) 

Just my two user cents.

Detlef 


> On the same line, we could remove "longtable" from
> `org-latex-default-packages-alist', if only to spare a few kittens.
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Nicolas Goaziou
> 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-13  8:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-11 11:05 [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package? Eric S Fraga
2013-09-11 12:01 ` Rasmus
2013-09-11 12:08   ` Eric S Fraga
2013-09-11 12:14     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-11 12:25       ` Rasmus
2013-09-11 15:24         ` Eric S Fraga
2013-09-11 12:30       ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-12 17:42   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-12 18:33     ` Rasmus
2013-09-12 19:00       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-13  8:49         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-12 19:22     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-13  8:01     ` Detlef Steuer [this message]
2013-09-15  4:49       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-15 14:02         ` Nicolas Girard
2013-09-16  8:08           ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-16 10:47         ` Rasmus
2013-09-16 11:26           ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-16 13:27           ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-16 13:38             ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-16 19:26             ` Rasmus
2013-09-16 20:21               ` Andreas Leha
2013-09-17  1:45               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-09-17  4:48                 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-17 13:24                   ` Rasmus
2013-09-18 13:18                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-18 22:21                       ` Rasmus
2013-09-19  2:04                         ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-19  9:11                           ` Rasmus
2013-09-19  9:28                             ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-19  9:38                           ` Nicolas Girard
2013-09-19 11:05                             ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-25  7:04                             ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-25  7:45                               ` Nicolas Girard
2013-09-25  7:50                                 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-25  9:09                                 ` Rasmus
2013-09-26  8:51                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-17 13:30                 ` Rasmus
2013-09-17  5:11 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-17  8:05   ` Eric S Fraga

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