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From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
To: friedel@nomaden.org
Cc: Emacs-orgmode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: POLL: the 40 variables project
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:02:12 +0100
Message-ID: <657C3FFD-1CAC-4BA8-A617-9AA79F8D84D0@uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090129111316.GA32494@taupan.ath.cx>

Hi Friedrich,

On Jan 29, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs wrote:

> Hiho!

[...]

>> and got 378 as an answer.  378 user-customizable variables,
>> no kidding.
>
> You make this sound as if it was a bad thing... ;)

Not at all.  I am just surprized that it  sooo many.

>> In addition, I could make a special customization group which only
>> contains those variables (Emacs allows to put a variable into several
>> groups).  It would be awesome to have, and a much easier start into
>> customizing Org.
>
> Phew! For a second I thought you would jump on the 'gnome' train of
> thought that "too much configuration is bad, mmkay?" I feared that
> you'd intend to get rid of those customisation variables.

Nononono, de-scoping was last years April Fools Joke, and
it is not April just yet. :-)

> I'd hate to see that happen to any software project.
>
> I don't care what any usability experts say (self-proclaimed or not),
> I want to be able to change those settings. I tend to heavily
> customise just about every software that I use.

I also like a lot of customizability, but providing a ladder for new
users is a nice thing to do.

> However organising the most-often used variables seems like a good
> idea. It might also make a lot of sense to identify the values that
> people most often use to arrive at a more sensible set of defaults.

Yes.  There are some "buts" to the question of defaults, and majority
use cannot always be a reason.  When I decide about a default setting,
I use what I think is best, but subject to the condition that the
default behavior should be intuitive and easy to grasp, not too magic,
not too different from standard Emacs behavior.
Still, there may be cases where another setting meets all these  
criteria,
and I would like to find out about them.

Thanks for your detailed list!  I hope we will get lots more,
this exercise makes most sense if lots of people reply....

- Carsten

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-29 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-29  8:49 Carsten Dominik
2009-01-29 11:13 ` Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
2009-01-29 13:02   ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2009-01-29 13:40     ` Dan Griswold
2009-01-29 11:46 ` Womick, Don
2009-01-29 11:59 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-01-29 13:37   ` Sebastian Rose
2009-01-29 13:30 ` Bernt Hansen
2009-01-29 13:46 ` Chris Leyon
2009-01-29 14:10 ` Matthew Lundin
2009-01-29 14:49 ` Bernt Hansen
2009-01-29 14:55 ` srandby
2009-01-29 16:01 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-01-29 16:40 ` Dan Davison
2009-01-29 16:40 ` Michael Ekstrand
2009-01-29 17:24 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2009-01-29 17:56 ` Manish
2009-01-29 21:02   ` Dan Davison
2009-01-29 23:07   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-01-30  7:46     ` Manish
2009-01-30  8:18       ` Carsten Dominik
2009-01-30  8:29         ` Manish
2009-01-30  8:38           ` Carsten Dominik
2009-01-30  8:52             ` Manish
2009-01-30  9:16               ` Carsten Dominik
2009-01-30 10:35                 ` Scot Becker
     [not found]                 ` <e7cdbe30902011255y680747e8vb8731a775a73dc73@mail.gmail.com>
2009-02-01 22:15                   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-02 10:36                   ` Carsten Dominik
     [not found]       ` <87ljstx71e.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca>
2009-01-30 13:50         ` Carsten Dominik
2009-01-30 15:27       ` Carsten Dominik
2009-01-29 18:02 ` William Henney
2009-01-29 19:07 ` Peter Jones
2009-01-29 19:44 ` Hsiu-Khuern Tang
2009-01-29 22:06 ` Steven E. Harris
2009-01-29 22:43 ` Oliver Charles
2009-01-30  3:32 ` Ross Patterson
2009-01-30 12:13   ` Sebastian Rose
2009-01-30  3:44 ` Dennis Groves
2009-01-30  4:12   ` Manish
2009-01-30  4:46 ` Austin Frank
2009-01-30  8:17 ` Ulf Stegemann
2009-01-30 12:26   ` Sebastian Rose
2009-01-30  8:26 ` Cameron Horsburgh
2009-01-30  8:43 ` R: " Giovanni Ridolfi
2009-01-30  9:21   ` Manish
2009-01-30 11:09 ` Shaun Johnson
2009-01-30 12:08 ` Rainer Stengele
2009-01-30 12:48 ` Mikael Fornius
2009-01-30 15:56 ` William Henney
2009-01-30 16:12 ` Christian Egli
2009-01-30 16:34 ` Manuel Hermenegildo
2009-02-01  0:34   ` Samuel Wales
2009-01-30 16:36 ` Eric Schulte
2009-01-31 13:06 ` Martin Stemplinger
2009-02-01 15:18 ` James TD Smith
2009-02-04 15:29 ` Charles Sebold
2009-02-05 14:55   ` Manish
2009-02-04 21:28 ` Mike Newman
2014-01-17 20:55 ` [Orgmode] " Manish
2014-01-19 15:54   ` Bastien
2014-01-20  2:18     ` M
2014-01-20 11:17       ` Bastien
2014-01-20 11:38         ` Rainer M Krug
2014-01-20 11:47           ` Bastien
2014-01-20 17:07           ` Eric S Fraga
2014-01-20  7:05     ` henry atting
2014-01-20 11:16       ` Bastien
2014-04-30 15:29   ` Sungmin
2014-04-30 15:50     ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found] <20090130091800.B54F32868C@mailhost.cs.tu-berlin.de>
2009-01-30 11:33 ` Stephan Schmitt

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