From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 2CzqOHkytF/QaQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 20:28:41 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id 0FrDNHkytF/bGgAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 20:28:41 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0595694053D for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 20:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:33110 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kf7ah-0004nD-Jx for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:28:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49648) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kf7a9-0004Zu-0h for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:28:05 -0500 Received: from grinta.net ([109.74.203.128]:33588) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kf7a1-0000jW-Ua for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:28:04 -0500 Received: from black.local (p5dd0dc2f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.208.220.47]) (Authenticated sender: daniele) by grinta.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A362EEE2B5; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 20:27:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=grinta.net; s=2020; t=1605644875; bh=RLd1uRBRzv52P3+TByl4AWv50uOuw9PruIAD9v46/So=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=cngnzV5NX1Kn7Oh+urj/DK32BnG/z3tDi84mdvBAUajagL1hFCG7iU7NBX+HWh3QX z7ylEXeAcbvYNulgYNgOGtnlm2b49jZywjWsx/qLmmiGhzjPvm8IetBCED68UrNRke v7rWTgub/kth0/3hYjWn2zIVlCNn3GZw6nSeYz794vgaGS74KJnHW3K8yiUHY5/wot dS9ztIJiz/r0Jk/VB3gBSlcO86PlryLF0W6uScAOZwFGhaR55L0s8o9gskhaIxPPlM DbUCbnCSeE+xJOPFwARGomN1SsBE7GxxIGxIKtwBn7uuKvWMyugVODWvt3aG4nsHc8 Em+QcWCWjliWQ== Subject: Re: Ignored bugs To: Boruch Baum References: <20201117184130.t67oqxhnkw5rwozx@E15-2016.optimum.net> <7ef0ec5a-276e-ace7-5316-e168373295ec@grinta.net> <20201117201554.y5pz2blxiklq673m@E15-2016.optimum.net> From: Daniele Nicolodi Message-ID: <6e794a47-b58f-df7a-7420-e0c74174ac16@grinta.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 21:27:53 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20201117201554.y5pz2blxiklq673m@E15-2016.optimum.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=109.74.203.128; envelope-from=daniele@grinta.net; helo=grinta.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/17 14:51:40 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=grinta.net header.s=2020 header.b=cngnzV5N; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.01 X-TUID: qUTpttwIqiu/ On 17/11/2020 21:15, Boruch Baum wrote: > On 2020-11-17 20:51, Daniele Nicolodi wrote: >> Please complain with the Emacs maintainers about their handling of the >> bugs on the Emacs bug tracking system, > > How do I know it was "their handling" and not "your handling"? It's > unclear from my view of the thread who performed the actions but all the > other actions on that thread were from a fellow called "Bastien" - is he > one of "theirs" or one of "yours" (or both)? > > In any event, it should be of concern to people on this list to make > contributing to org-mode as open and hurdle-free as possible instead of > piling on supplemental demands / requirements. As a case study, you > can review the submissions that I referenced and the elisp content there > that seems would have gone lost had I not taken the extra steps of > engaging on this list. Who knows how many other contributions and > contributors you've "lost" this way... The page that introduces the Emacs bug tracker already reports that this mailing list is the right place where to report Org bugs (or feature request, as is the case for at least one of the bug you reported), and not the Emacs bug tracker. I went and read the exchange on bug #42484 and already Bastien told you that this mailing list is the right place where to report bugs and submit patches. You are deliberately ignoring these instructions. What do you expect? Would you like to elaborate on why making it easy for you to contribute something to org-mode that solves your problems should be of concerns to the people of this list, especialy if this comes at extra cost to them? Cheers, Dan