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From: Greg Minshall <minshall@umich.edu>
To: Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Changed list indentation behavior: how to revert?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 09:54:21 +0300
Message-ID: <737364.1605509661@apollo2.minshall.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Nov 2020 00:24:37 -0500." <87tutpvppm.fsf@kyleam.com>

i wonder if a grid might help?  i.e., contexts in which we are all
happy, others where we might disagree?  below, i try; i'm sure i've
missed cases.

question: what does <RET> do/would we like it to do when we are in?

=========================================
tables: next row, current column

Org Src buffers: electric-indent per declared language major
mode rules.

src blocks: same as in Org Src buffers (i think there have been some
very nice "recent" improvements here, which are great, and for which,
belated thanks!)

^^   i think we are all happy with those
=========================================
=========================================
vv   here, i think, well, "Houston, ..." :)

after n* heading:
    column 1
  vs
    column n+2

list entry (end of line):
    column where previous "-" was (to start a new list item)
  vs
    two columns *after* where previous "-" was (to continue with the
    current list item)

immediately after (non-blank, non-list, non-heading) with text starting
in column n:
    column 1
  vs
    column n

immediately after a blank line:
    column 1
  vs
    column of first non-blank character of most recent non-blank line?
=========================================

surveymonkey, anyone?  :)  not to vote, but i'm curious to what extent
we divide cleanly into two groups (in which case, maybe an option for
which "major mode indentation" style one prefers for org-mode makes
sense), or if we are uniformly distributed across the power set. :)

btw, it seems to me that M-q (fill-paragraph) also has *something* to
say here.  i.e., though *i* want <RET> from a list entry to line me up
at the previous "-", i want M-q within a list entry to add new lines
starting two columns past that point.  i guess i see it as orthogonal
(and, so far, non-controversial) to the current discussion, and hope it
so stays!

cheers, Greg


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-16  6:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-13 17:30 Karl Voit
2020-11-13 21:10 ` Gustavo Barros
2020-11-13 21:38   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-14  3:02     ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-13 21:47   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-13 22:13     ` Gustavo Barros
2020-11-13 22:21       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-14 17:28         ` Diego Zamboni
2020-11-14 19:10           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 12:44             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-15 13:26               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 21:59                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-15 22:15                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-16  7:15                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-16  6:26               ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-14 10:45   ` Diego Zamboni
2020-11-13 21:31 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-14 22:43 ` David Rogers
2020-11-15  5:38   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15  7:47     ` David Rogers
2020-11-15  8:54       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 10:37       ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-15 11:42         ` Tim Cross
2020-11-15 11:48         ` Gustavo Barros
2020-11-15 11:58           ` Detlef Steuer
2020-11-15 12:09           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 14:50             ` Gustavo Barros
2020-11-15 15:11               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 10:44       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-15 11:22         ` Detlef Steuer
2020-11-15 14:03           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-16  5:24             ` Kyle Meyer
2020-11-16  6:41               ` Tim Cross
2020-11-16  7:15                 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-16 11:21                   ` Gustavo Barros
2020-11-16 23:24                     ` T.F. Torrey
2020-11-17  1:21                       ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-17  7:01                         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-17  7:48                       ` Michal Politowski
2020-11-19  4:17                     ` Marcel Ventosa
2020-11-16  8:06                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-16 12:10                 ` Bill Burdick
2020-11-16  6:54               ` Greg Minshall [this message]
2020-11-16  7:12                 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-17  4:03                   ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-17  5:25                     ` Tim Cross
2020-11-17 13:15                       ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-16  7:01               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-16  7:22                 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-16 16:04                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-16 16:26                     ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-16 18:12                       ` gyro funch
2020-11-16 18:48                         ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-16 19:41                           ` Bill Burdick
2020-11-16 19:56                             ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-16 21:50                             ` Tim Cross
2020-11-16 23:01                               ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-16 21:44                           ` Tim Cross
2020-11-16 18:20                       ` gyro funch
2020-11-16 20:56                       ` Tim Cross
2020-11-16 21:35                         ` Bill Burdick
2020-11-16 22:44                         ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-16 23:55                         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-17  9:05                           ` Stefan Nobis
2020-11-17  9:15                             ` Loris Bennett
2020-11-17  9:32                             ` Diego Zamboni
2020-11-17 14:29                             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-17 16:25                               ` Robert Pluim
2020-11-16 23:39                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-16 21:35                     ` Tim Cross
2020-11-17  0:11                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-17  8:45                         ` Detlef Steuer
2020-11-17  9:41                           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-17 15:33                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-16 13:00                 ` Uwe Brauer
2020-11-16 16:10                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide

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