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From: "Sébastien Vauban" <>
To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/
Subject: Re: Footnotes in LaTeX export
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:45:39 +0200
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Hi Nick and all,

Nick Dokos wrote:
> Thomas S. Dye <> wrote:
>> What is an ECM?
> I don't know how widespread it is in French-speaking milieus, but I believe
> Seb Vauban is responsible for introducing it into this mailing list (see
> and its parent
> thread) and Nicolas Goaziou has perpetuated its use: it stands for Exemple
> Complet Minimal (= Minimal Complete Example). Between the two of them,
> they'll drag us all through remedial French class :-)

Yes, I think I am responsible for this viral marketing of using the term ECM
here. It comes from the excellent FCTT newsgroup (french.comp.text.tex) about

I must admit this term, when understood, is excellent for describing what we
expect from people posting questions about troubles.

(Free) translation/explanation of the concept of "Exemple Complet Minimal":

    When you encounter a problem, when Org does not output what you expect, it
    is essential to attach to the problem description an example of code that
    allows reproducing it. This example should be complete and minimal, if
    possible, this is called ECM.

    - Complete :: the example should be usable without adding a single line.

      In particular, your Org files must contain the basic headers, the
      SEQ_TODO customizations, etc., whatever is needed to reproduce the

    - Minimal :: the example does not contain any redundant or useless code.

      This implies that this is not your entire Org file of 300 pages. It is
      essential to remove all the things that are not necessary to reproduce
      the problem.

> Maybe it should go into the FAQ...

Could be, yes. Using the French acronym, or "inventing" MCE?  I stand for ECM.

Best regards,

Sébastien Vauban

  parent reply index

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-26 17:40 Thomas S. Dye
2011-04-26 18:38 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-04-26 18:47   ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-04-26 19:04     ` Nick Dokos
2011-04-26 19:15       ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-04-27  8:45       ` Sébastien Vauban [this message]
2011-04-27 13:53         ` Matt Lundin
2011-04-27 19:20           ` Sébastien Vauban
2011-04-28 16:50   ` Thomas S. Dye
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-18 19:54 footnotes " Henri-Paul Indiogine
2010-07-18 20:08 ` David Maus

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