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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: "Berry, Charles" <ccberry@health.ucsd.edu>,
	Gerardo Moro <gerardomoro37@gmail.com>,
	emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Bring up a screen giving option to open a series of orgmode files
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:23:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874klfcj5k.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X7t9a5xcE77dpRVa@protected.rcdrun.com>

> Side note: there shall be feature in Org that quickly
> captures the full link to the heading. Maybe it already
> exists. Instead of constructing links by hand like entering
> the file name, entering the heading for the link, there
> shall by some automated feature:

See org-store-link and org-insert-link. org-store-link stores link in a
link ring and the link/links can be later inserted using
org-insert-link.

> Org headings can be or could be marked with later action on
> the whole collection of headings:

See bulk commands in agenda (Bulk remote editing selected entries):
https://orgmode.org/manual/Agenda-Commands.html

Manually picking headlines to put into agenda is not currently possible
in org-mode, but one can volunteer to do it. It is not too hard to
implement. Patches are welcome.

> - re-filing all of them at once

built-in

> - sending them all by email to other person (I do with Org)

> - sending hyperlinks in other Org file (I do in HyperScope)

> - creating new Org file with the collection of headings

not implemented, but see org-agenda-bulk-custom-functions for extending
the built-in functionality

> - assigning properties to collection of headings, tasks,
> todo or similar. I am often assigning tasks to people,
> collection would help me re-assign tasks instead of doing it
> one by one.

build-in bulk commands provide a way to assign todo keywords or tags.

> But this here, this chunk of various properties shows how
> Org users wish Org to be way more structured, that Org wants
> to become more than just plain text, it wants to become
> database.

As usual, it's user's choice how to use Org. There are built-in tools
that require storing metadata and org-mode devs chose to store
everything as plain text. If user does not want to use this feature, the
user is free to not use it or use alternative ways to store metadata (as
it is done in org-roam, for example).

Best,
Ihor

Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:

> * Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> [2020-11-23 11:14]:
>> > Org provides hyperlinks and that useful feature may be used as
>> > on-the-fly information visualizer for many groups of smaller pieces of
>> > information which could be obtained from some structure or found in
>> > real time.
>> 
>> Also, one could quickly select one of multiple links under heading by
>> invoking C-c C-o with point at heading.
>
> I did not know that. That is useful feature for Org.
>
> Side note: there shall be feature in Org that quickly
> captures the full link to the heading. Maybe it already
> exists. Instead of constructing links by hand like entering
> the file name, entering the heading for the link, there
> shall by some automated feature:
>
> Useful Feature A:
> =================
>
> - watching 2 windows with 2 Org files
>
> - position cursor in first Org file to accept the hyperlink
>
> - move to 2nd Org file any heading
>
> - press key, and hyperlink is sent to 1st Org file properly
>   formatted for specific heading in second Org file.
>
> And then there shall be also collection of hyperlinks:
>
> Useful feature B to collect hyperlinks similar to above:
> ========================================================
>
> - user browses one Org file and thinks of collecting various
> multiple hyperlinks as such need to be referenced in other
> Org file and I refer to headings only for now.
>
> - user would just invoke the key in any heading and message
>   would be "Heading `** TODO Things' captured in the ring"
>
> - user would be able to browse various Org files and collect
>   hyperlinks in memory collection.
>
> - After several collections user could then go to other Org
> files and invoke key or command to insert the whole
> collection of hyperlinks.
>
> Do you find that useful? Who does?
>
> That is how I am implementing information in the personal
> program HyperScope, it will get published when polished and
> ripe. 
>
> Collections are similar to Dired marking, user can mark the
> file and later decide what to do with it.
>
> Org headings can be or could be marked with later action on
> the whole collection of headings:
>
> - re-filing all of them at once
>
> - sending them all by email to other person (I do with Org)
>
> - sending hyperlinks in other Org file (I do in HyperScope)
>
> - creating new Org file with the collection of headings
>
> - assigning properties to collection of headings, tasks,
> todo or similar. I am often assigning tasks to people,
> collection would help me re-assign tasks instead of doing it
> one by one.
>
>> In the following example, C-c C-o would raise a buffer listing all
>> the links. Then, the links can be selected by pressing 1/2/3 (to
>> open first/second/third link):
>
> That is new to me and fine feature, thank you for reference. 
>
> But this here, this chunk of various properties shows how
> Org users wish Org to be way more structured, that Org wants
> to become more than just plain text, it wants to become
> database.
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-24  7:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-22 10:01 Bring up a screen giving option to open a series of orgmode files Gerardo Moro
2020-11-22 10:09 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 17:35   ` Berry, Charles via General discussions about Org-mode.
2020-11-22 18:33     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 19:03     ` Gerardo Moro
2020-11-22 19:15       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-23  3:59         ` Gerardo Moro
2020-11-23  5:21           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-23  8:12             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-23  8:40               ` Gerardo Moro
2020-11-23  9:11                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-23  9:14                   ` Gerardo Moro
2020-11-23  9:14               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-24  4:07                 ` Gerardo Moro
2020-11-24  7:26                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-24  7:23                 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2020-11-24  9:28                   ` Gerardo Moro
2020-11-24  9:57                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-24 16:26                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-25  3:41                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-25  5:36                           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-25  7:15                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-25 11:20                               ` Browser org-capture bookmarklet Jean Louis
2020-11-25 12:51                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-25 14:12                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-25 14:50                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-02  9:07                               ` Bring up a screen giving option to open a series of orgmode files Jean Louis
2020-12-02  9:53                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-02 10:19                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-02  9:24                               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-02  9:56                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-02 10:14                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-24 17:41                       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-02 10:17                       ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-27  2:40                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-27  8:15                     ` Alan Schmitt
2020-11-27 12:04                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-28 16:12                         ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-28 18:10                           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-28 15:51                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-28 17:59                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-30  9:35                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-30 10:45                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-01  2:38                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-01 10:30                               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-30 17:08                         ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-30 18:33                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-02 16:41                             ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-02 17:24                               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-09 13:00                               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-09 15:03                                 ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-09 16:32                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-09 16:49                                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-10  0:04                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-11  6:54                                       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-11 14:40                                         ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-11 15:22                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-12  3:22                                             ` Jean Louis
2020-12-13  0:42                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-13 15:00                                                 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 12:58                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-14 19:08                                                     ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 22:27                                                       ` TRS-80
2020-12-14 22:33                                                         ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15  4:42                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-15  5:00                                                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-16  2:59                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-16  4:05                                                               ` Tom Gillespie
2020-12-18 12:35                                                               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-16  1:48                                                           ` TRS-80
2020-12-16 12:40                                                           ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-12  2:49                                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-13  0:48                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-13 15:13                                               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-13 18:02                                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-13 20:31                                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14  0:34                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-14  0:34                                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14  0:35                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]                     ` <874kl7172r.fsf@localhost>
2020-11-30 10:51                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 21:23       ` Berry, Charles via General discussions about Org-mode.
2020-11-23  9:52 ` Diego Zamboni
2020-11-23 21:04   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-24  9:53 ` John Sturdy
2020-11-24 10:04   ` Detlef Steuer
2020-11-24 13:44     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-24 14:38   ` Jean Louis

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