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From: Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk>
To: Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com>
Cc: "Sébastien Vauban" <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com>,
	emacs-orgmode@gnu.org,
	"Giles Chamberlin" <giles.chamberlin@tandberg.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Limited #+INCLUDE ?
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:26:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874oiwyfgj.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wrvtyln2.fsf@gmail.com> (Eric Schulte's message of "Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:12:49 -0600")

"Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com> writes:

> Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> This functionality would be really useful. Since it is more directly
>> applicable for programming, then maybe an easier approach to implement it
>> would be just a link to a function in a file. For instance
>>
>> [[file_def:/path/to/file::definition_name][linkname]]
>>
>> Org could rely on the capability of the target major-mode to select the
>> region enclosing the function (c-mark-function for C/C++,
>> py-mark-def-or-class for python, mark-defun for lisp, etc.). This would
>> avoid the necessity of including commenting marks in the code and although
>> it would be limited to a "function body at a time" it would be enough in
>> many situations.
>>
>
> Following in this "major mode specific behavior" direction, maybe it
> would be possible to make use of the tags functionality for linking to
> specific functions, chapters, etc... based on the mode of the target
> file.

This sounds like an interesting idea; I have been meaning to use tags
more. However, I wouldn't want to exclude the possibility of using this
functionality in a non-programming context -- i.e. collaborative editing
of arbitrary text documents -- which would argue for approaches based on
storing arbitrary text context using Emacs bookmarks or custom text
searches. Perhaps the new functionality could involve a choice of more
than one new Org link type?

Dan



>
> (info "(emacs)Tags") ;; how great is it that gnus resolves these links 
>
> Tags would allow for robust links to points in changing files without
> the need to place text anchors into the files themselves.  The immediate
> downside is that tags rely on a TAGS table to resolve links.  This table
> can easily be ignored from version control (for collaboration).  Then
> Org-mode could use the `find-tag' function to resolve it's links, maybe
> in combination with the function delimiting features Darlan mentioned
> above to references entire function/object ranges.
>
> -- Eric
>
>>
>> Darlan
>>
>> 2010/4/27 Eric S Fraga <ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk>:
>>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:40:35 -0400, Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>> I'm considering investigating the following and would appreciate
>>>> comments on this idea. The aim is to make it easier to use Org-mode to
>>>> work pure code files which are *external to Org-mode* (i.e. this
>>>> proposal lies outside of the current org-babel tangling framework).
>>>>
>>>> - Extend Org file links to allow links to a range of lines in a
>>>>   file. The syntax could be
>>>>   [[file:/path/to/file::from::to][linkname]]
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> I like this idea, especially for exporting complex documents.  If
>>> org-store-link were enhanced to generate links with this line
>>> information, I would probably use this a lot.
>>>
>>>> - These links will bring up a buffer visiting the target file, narrowed
>>>>   to the target region.
>>>
>>> Or could be brought up with a wide view but with the region selected?
>>>
>>>> - 'from' and 'to' could be line numbers, or regexps for text search.
>>>
>>> The latter could be quite appealing, although possibly a little
>>> fragile.
>>>
>>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-27 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-23 11:25 Limited #+INCLUDE ? Giles Chamberlin
2010-04-26  8:32 ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-04-26 19:40   ` Dan Davison
2010-04-27  0:34     ` Mark Elston
2010-04-27  2:19       ` Dan Davison
2010-04-28  0:52         ` Mark Elston
2010-04-27  8:27     ` Eric S Fraga
2010-04-27 10:25       ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2010-04-27 15:12         ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-27 17:26           ` Dan Davison [this message]
2010-04-27 17:58             ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-27 18:27             ` Giles Chamberlin
2010-04-27 17:52           ` Samuel Wales
2010-04-27 19:19             ` Dan Davison
2010-04-27 21:56               ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-29 23:14               ` Samuel Wales

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