From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Adam Spiers Subject: vs document heading in HTML export Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:46:31 +0000 Message-ID: <20080211114631.GA8876@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> Reply-To: Adam Spiers <orgmode@adamspiers.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: <emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOX7O-0000Mn-HO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:46:38 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOX7M-0000MQ-HN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:46:37 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JOX7M-0000MJ-D6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:46:36 -0500 Received: from mail.beimborn.com ([70.84.38.100]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <f5-sendmail@adamspiers.org>) id 1JOX7M-0003YO-3H for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:46:36 -0500 Received: from mail.beimborn.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.beimborn.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m1BBkYf9032235 for <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:46:34 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by mail.beimborn.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Submit) id m1BBkY83032230 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:46:34 GMT Content-Disposition: inline List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." <emacs-orgmode.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/emacs-orgmode> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: org-mode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> Two feature requests: please would it be possible to: a) control what goes in <title> separately from the document header (the text inside the first <h1> by default), and b) wrap the initial #+TEXT inside a CSS class? Would be much appreciated if it's easy to do, thanks! From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> Subject: Re: <title> vs document heading in HTML export Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:27:19 +0100 Message-ID: <2F648B3E-E6D6-4242-8E3C-B2434E85DE3B@science.uva.nl> References: <20080211114631.GA8876@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: <emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOrl0-0002tJ-6c for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:48:54 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOrkz-0002sL-Ei for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:48:53 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JOrkz-0002sB-8U for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:48:53 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.169]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>) id 1JOrkz-0007W3-0G for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:48:53 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so480842ugf.48 for <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:48:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20080211114631.GA8876@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." <emacs-orgmode.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/emacs-orgmode> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Adam Spiers <orgmode@adamspiers.org> Cc: org-mode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> Hi Adam, On Feb 11, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Adam Spiers wrote: > Two feature requests: please would it be possible to: > > a) control what goes in <title> separately from the document header > (the text inside the first <h1> by default), and Would you care to suggest a syntax for this? > b) wrap the initial #+TEXT inside a CSS class? Sure. What should be the name for this? Can you sugest the detailed html (span, or whatever) you propose? Dont forget: I am a total moron when it comes to HTML. - Carsten From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org> Subject: Re: <title> vs document heading in HTML export Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:01:28 +0000 Message-ID: <87k5labiiv.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <20080211114631.GA8876@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> <2F648B3E-E6D6-4242-8E3C-B2434E85DE3B@science.uva.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: <emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOrxE-0005lr-Fn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:01:32 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOrxB-0005ik-RN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:01:31 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JOrxB-0005iJ-Fs for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:01:29 -0500 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.187]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <bastienguerry@googlemail.com>) id 1JOrxB-0001IF-0r for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:01:29 -0500 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so5218505muf.0 for <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:01:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2F648B3E-E6D6-4242-8E3C-B2434E85DE3B@science.uva.nl> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:27:19 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." <emacs-orgmode.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/emacs-orgmode> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> Cc: org-mode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes: > On Feb 11, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Adam Spiers wrote: > >> Two feature requests: please would it be possible to: >> >> a) control what goes in <title> separately from the document header >> (the text inside the first <h1> by default), and > > Would you care to suggest a syntax for this? I wonder why do you need this, Adam. The content of <title>... is only displayed on a few nearly-invisible locations and indexation is not really an issue, I guess. >> b) wrap the initial #+TEXT inside a CSS class? > > Sure. What should be the name for this?
? -- Bastien From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Phil Jackson Subject: Re: vs document heading in HTML export Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:13:39 +0000 Message-ID: <874pceh48c.fsf@shellarchive.co.uk> References: <20080211114631.GA8876@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> <2F648B3E-E6D6-4242-8E3C-B2434E85DE3B@science.uva.nl> <87k5labiiv.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: <emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOs9A-0002kk-2G for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:13:52 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOs94-0002hJ-S5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:13:48 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JOs92-0002fg-Uv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:13:45 -0500 Received: from a.painless.aaisp.net.uk ([81.187.30.51]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <phil@shellarchive.co.uk>) id 1JOs92-0003Pv-K3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:13:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k5labiiv.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:01:28 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." <emacs-orgmode.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/emacs-orgmode> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bastien <bzg@altern.org> Cc: org-mode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes: >>> a) control what goes in <title> separately from the document header >>> (the text inside the first <h1> by default), and >> >> Would you care to suggest a syntax for this? > > I wonder why do you need this, Adam. The content of <title>... > is only displayed on a few nearly-invisible locations and indexation is > not really an issue, I guess. Playing devils advocate: http://www.julian-bez.de/blog/2005/02/15/how-to-use-the-title-tag/ Phil -- Phil Jackson http://www.shellarchive.co.uk From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Guerry Subject: Re: vs document heading in HTML export Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:23:10 +0000 Message-ID: <87myq6z7m9.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <20080211114631.GA8876@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> <2F648B3E-E6D6-4242-8E3C-B2434E85DE3B@science.uva.nl> <87k5labiiv.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <874pceh48c.fsf@shellarchive.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: <emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOuAQ-0006FO-0b for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:23:18 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOuAL-0006Ec-Dw for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:23:17 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JOuAL-0006EN-Af for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:23:13 -0500 Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com ([72.14.214.224]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <bastienguerry@googlemail.com>) id 1JOuAK-0005Dt-Oy for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:23:13 -0500 Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 23so7778256huc.1 for <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:23:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <874pceh48c.fsf@shellarchive.co.uk> (Phil Jackson's message of "Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:13:39 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." <emacs-orgmode.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/emacs-orgmode> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Phil Jackson <phil@shellarchive.co.uk> Cc: org-mode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> Phil Jackson <phil@shellarchive.co.uk> writes: > Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes: > >>>> a) control what goes in <title> separately from the document header >>>> (the text inside the first <h1> by default), and >>> >>> Would you care to suggest a syntax for this? >> >> I wonder why do you need this, Adam. The content of <title>... >> is only displayed on a few nearly-invisible locations and indexation is >> not really an issue, I guess. > > Playing devils advocate: > > http://www.julian-bez.de/blog/2005/02/15/how-to-use-the-title-tag/ Interesting. But the issue discussed in this blog entry is more a to-have-or-not-to-have issue. The point Adam is making is to have two different titles, one for the tag, another for the first headline of the webpage itself. After thinking of it, I can see one reason to justify having two titles: one might want to have a very long and descriptive title in the <title> tag, while saving space and having a more contextual-relevant title in as the first headline. For example <title>This is MY blog! -- And this is the first entry of my blog and

And this is the first entry of my blog

But I'm still a bit skeptical many people would use this. Maybe my imagination is just a bit short on this. The example above suggests this syntax: #+TITLE_TAG_FORMAT: This is MY blog! -- %t %t = the title of the page (as in #+TITLE:) %a = the author ... -- Bastien From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: vs document heading in HTML export Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:24:09 +0200 Message-ID: <D9F8DBB0-19B4-47B9-997F-3E89312CDA86@science.uva.nl> References: <20080211114631.GA8876@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: <emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JnBB5-0000d9-BM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Apr 2008 07:24:19 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JnBB4-0000cs-BF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Apr 2008 07:24:18 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JnBB4-0000cp-7X for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Apr 2008 07:24:18 -0400 Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.189]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>) id 1JnBB4-0003kj-3z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Apr 2008 07:24:18 -0400 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 26so1188724fkx.10 for <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>; Sat, 19 Apr 2008 04:24:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20080211114631.GA8876@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." <emacs-orgmode.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/emacs-orgmode> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Adam Spiers <orgmode@adamspiers.org> Cc: org-mode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> Hi Adam, I did send this email to you a while ago, but it seems to me that you missed it. Second try... - Carsten On Feb 11, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Adam Spiers wrote: > Two feature requests: please would it be possible to: > > a) control what goes in <title> separately from the document header > (the text inside the first <h1> by default), and Would you care to suggest a syntax for this? > b) wrap the initial #+TEXT inside a CSS class? Sure. What should be the name for this? Can you sugest the detailed html (span, or whatever) you propose? Dont forget: I am a total moron when it comes to HTML. - Carsten