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[180.150.91.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h4sm9044801pgq.9.2020.08.02.22.53.27 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 02 Aug 2020 22:53:27 -0700 (PDT) From: TEC To: Colin Baxter Subject: Re: Website revamp? Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 13:11:24 +0800 References: <87zh95g2ns.fsf@gmail.com> <87mu3hduk1.fsf@gmail.com> <87wo2lyvid.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0yldpuj.fsf@gmail.com> <20200730172204.GB17223@volibear> <87ime4ev3s.fsf@gmail.com> <20200730190331.GD17223@volibear> <878seyhj38.fsf@gmail.com> <87bljs6hph.fsf@gmail.com> <87r1so2u2b.fsf@yandex.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.10; emacs 26.3 In-reply-to: <87r1so2u2b.fsf@yandex.com> Message-ID: <875za05l7v.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1032; envelope-from=tecosaur@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x1032.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ijX/i+5p; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 2.59 X-TUID: VyRdqFHuFkrN Colin Baxter writes: >> TEC writes: >> - The site is now more mobile friendly, the navbar now has a > > Why? How many users are installing org-mode on their 'phones - smart or > otherwise? Zero, I expect :P However, I don't think that's the question we should be asking. Consider someone tweeting about org-mode, the question then is: how many people use twitter on their phones? Likewise, if someone wants to share a org-mode with a friend, and sends them a link - whether it be by email, sms, whatsapp, messenger, or telegram: what's the chance that they'll take a peek oh their phones? Of course we don't exactly have any hard answers to these questions, but I'd wager the answer is enough to warrant a little bit of effort to make the mobile experience not-garbage. To see how orgmode.org currently appears, see https://i.imgur.com/XPFfBaB.png IMO that's downright off-putting --- and I say that intending no criticism to Carsten or Bastien, in 2012 mobile design simple wasn't a priority. Moreover, we can improve the mobile experience with no compromise to the desktop --- so why wouldn't we? :D I hope this fleshes out my motivation for improving the mobile experience :) Timothy.