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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=liveuclac.onmicrosoft.com header.s=selector2-liveuclac-onmicrosoft-com header.b=ofgh4GLV; arc=pass (microsoft.com:s=arcselector9901:i=1); dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=ucl.ac.uk (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.11 X-TUID: VHIfiVormFFf On Monday, 2 Nov 2020 at 16:23, Russell Adams wrote: > #+BEGIN_RANT > [...] > #+END_RANT Apologies for my comment then! :-( I am fully sympathetic to the views you have expressed. Let me rephrase, therefore: it could be interesting to see Emacs as a SaaS which processes org mode documents. But, note, I only say it might be interesting. I am not particularly keen on cloud services for all kinds of reasons including ownership, security, etc. My solution is to have Emacs with me at all times so I have org & gnus & erc & emms & ... :-) I have a Planet Computers Gemini and an OpenPandora, for this reason, and am awaiting the soon to be available Pyra with impatience to have a fully open system (open software in the form of Debian & Emacs and open hardware, as much as is possible at the moment). -- : Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4-61-ga88806.dirty