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From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
To: Michael Brand <michael.ch.brand@gmail.com>
Cc: "Andrew M. Nuxoll" <nuxoll@up.edu>, Org Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Still Wishing for Snooze
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:21:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878v6tltna.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALn3zogd4H5e5Jc08iafJ5Z63XGq-A9rP4c7aphpQZGMs1mEWg@mail.gmail.com> (Michael Brand's message of "Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:25:43 +0100")

Hi Michael,

Michael Brand <michael.ch.brand@gmail.com> writes:

>>   SCHEDULED: <2013-02-07 jeu. -2d>
>>
>> The item will not be shown today, but in three days.
>
> For this case I would use:
>
>   SCHEDULED: <2013-02-09 Sat>

AFAIU this would not work for what Andrew wants.  He wants the
scheduled item to be invisible on the 2013-02-07 but to appear on
the 2013-02-07 as it is was scheduled on 2013-02-09.  My change
does this.

> It seems I don’t get the point because when a TODO with repeater
>
>   SCHEDULED: <2013-02-01 Fri +1w -3d>
>
> is set to DONE the delay remains and this way also here I would not
> use a delay but:
>
>   SCHEDULED: <2013-02-04 Mon +1w>
>
> The usefulness of a SCHEDULED delay I see together with a TODO and
> repeater to implement an _exception_ (to simplify: exception just for
> the first date, before the repetitions). For example
>
>   SCHEDULED: <2013-02-01 Fri +1w -3d>
>
> would mean: Usually start working on the entry earliest on the first
> day of the month except [2013-02-01 Fri] when work can not start
> before [2013-02-04 Mon]. It would start to show in the agenda on
> [2013-02-04 Mon], [2013-03-01 Fri], [2013-04-01 Mon], [2013-05-01
> Wed], [2013-06-01 Sat] etc. On let’s say [2013-02-05 Tue] it would be
> set to DONE and would change to:
>
>   SCHEDULED: <2013-03-01 Fri +1w>
>
> Note the automatically removed delay.

Point well taken -- this is now what adding "--2d" does: use a
temporary delay that will not be taken into account for dates later
than the next repeater, and that will be deleted when a repeating
task is marked as done.  Thanks for suggesting this.

I think it still makes sense to keep the default behavior: -1d in
a scheduled items means "inconditionnally add a delay of one day,
even when there is a repeater" -- because perhaps what users want 
is a global delay for the repeated task.  If that's not the case,
--2d is just fine too.

Thanks for your feedback on this!

-- 
 Bastien

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-12 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-21 18:20 Still Wishing for Snooze Andrew M. Nuxoll
2013-01-23 10:42 ` Samuel Loury
2013-01-23 19:00   ` Andrew M. Nuxoll
2013-01-23 13:36 ` Bastien
2013-01-24 18:49   ` Andrew M. Nuxoll
2013-01-24 22:26     ` Bastien
2013-01-24 22:54       ` Andrew M. Nuxoll
2013-01-25  1:20         ` Eric S Fraga
2013-01-25 10:45         ` Bastien
2013-01-25 19:48           ` Andrew M. Nuxoll
2013-02-07  9:44             ` Bastien
2013-02-07 15:25               ` Michael Brand
2013-02-09 18:06                 ` Samuel Loury
2013-02-09 20:50                   ` Michael Brand
2013-02-12 10:21                 ` Bastien [this message]
2013-02-12 12:29                   ` Michael Brand
2013-02-12 13:24                     ` Michael Brand
2013-02-12 15:57                     ` Bastien
2013-02-12 16:33                     ` Bastien
2013-02-12 18:09                       ` Michael Brand
2013-02-13 11:09                   ` Samuel Loury
2013-02-13 11:14                     ` Bastien
2013-02-12 22:35               ` Andrew M. Nuxoll
2013-01-25 11:10         ` Michael Brand
2013-01-25 19:30           ` Andrew M. Nuxoll
2013-02-07 15:24           ` Michael Brand
2013-01-23 15:49 ` Michael Brand
2013-01-23 18:51   ` Andrew M. Nuxoll
2013-01-23 19:37     ` Michael Brand
2013-01-24 20:09 ` Marc-Oliver Ihm
2013-01-26 17:40   ` Marc-Oliver Ihm

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