From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFtCVUddIGBvcmctbG9hZC1ub2Vycm9yLW11c3RzdWZmaXg=?= =?UTF-8?B?wrQgaXMgbm90IGRlZmluZWQsIGludHJvZHVjZWQgYnkgNTQ4NGEzM2I=?= Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:35:58 +0100 Message-ID: <878v7y8qwx.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <87a9sh3tsp.fsf@gmail.com> <87sj69ro12.fsf@gmail.com> <87pq1dj76n.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87hamprlob.fsf@gmail.com> <11306.1357839845@alphaville> <874niosy6w.fsf@gmail.com> <87txqodgix.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87txqovnv3.fsf@gmail.com> <874niodcry.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87vcb4spxe.fsf@gmail.com> <8738y8n0b2.fsf@gmail.com> <87lic0bpwj.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87hamo7gdk.fsf@gmail.com> <87wqvk9p5f.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ehhrhpjl.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87sj67d662.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87a9sf1wsl.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87k3rjd51k.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87obgvzlah.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87fw27cybb.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <876232mzmz.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35345) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Fp-0008KZ-Rc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:36:13 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Fg-0004ve-RJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:36:09 -0500 Received: from wg-in-x0229.1e100.net ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::229]:45733 helo=mail-wg0-x229.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Fg-0004vQ-Ko for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:36:00 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id ds1so356336wgb.2 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 05:35:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <876232mzmz.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:03:48 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Thanks for the patch, it made me realize Org breaks Emacs coding conventions by allowing advice in several places. I will work on removing them. Also, the series rintroduces a warning because it moves `org-effort-durations'. Finally, as far as I understand, you are arguing that users may want to compress their Org files, and that (load "org-loaddefs.el") will fail if they do, and that's why they need this patch. If the additional complexity is just for this, I'm not convinced by the patch. If it fixes something else, please let me know. -- Bastien