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From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
To: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:06:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bocucrnz.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a9seh050.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:49:31 +0100")

> No, not at all.  That's what reverting db7ece9fa2 does.  And if you
> really want to flip off folks with strange Org installations instead of
> helping them survive, then leave out that third "t", i.e. just change
> that line to:

Please lower your tone.

I'm not "flipping off" anybody.

> In other words something like this:
>
> (require 'org-compat)
> (require 'org-macs)
> (add-to-list 'load-path "/home/org-mode/lisp")
> (require 'org)

Anybody can see this is wrong, and instead of letting users shoot
themselves in the foot with a wrong setup, we should educate them to
use a correct one like

(add-to-list 'load-path "/home/org-mode/lisp")
(require 'org)

which shouldn't be that hard.

> will result in a correctly loaded Org with the patch, but yield either a
> not-correctly working Org (silently wrong and producing strange results
> that nobody can reproduce) or a failure to load Org at all (you get an
> error at least) without it.

I'm fine with not fixing this right now.

> It is also an experiment to determine if Emacs should do something like
> this (by default or as an option) and how to best implement it.  Even if
> it eventually moved into Emacs however, Org would still have to
> implement it as a workaround for older Emacsen that don't have it.

Again, I'm fine with any experiment that can be done on Emacs side so
that Emacs autoloads are always correct.  But I won't allow a patch
that advise `require' in Org for now.

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-12 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-10 16:08 [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 16:29 ` Bastien
2013-01-10 16:38   ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 17:09     ` Bastien
2013-01-10 17:29       ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 17:44         ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-10 18:13           ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 18:44             ` Bastien
2013-01-10 19:28               ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 20:05                 ` Bastien
2013-01-10 21:12                   ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 22:24                     ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 22:45                       ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-10 23:05                       ` Bastien
2013-01-10 23:44                         ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-11  7:04                           ` Bastien
2013-01-11 12:28                             ` Bastien
2013-01-11 15:41                               ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-11 16:31                                 ` Bastien
2013-01-11 16:50                                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 16:40                               ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 16:58                                 ` Bastien
2013-01-11 17:04                                   ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 17:23                                     ` Bastien
2013-01-11 19:30                                       ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 20:19                                         ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-11 20:48                                           ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12  6:57                                           ` Bastien
2013-01-12  6:56                                         ` Bastien
2013-01-12  7:44                                           ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12  8:40                                             ` Bastien
2013-01-12 10:27                                               ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 11:03                                         ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 13:35                                           ` Bastien
2013-01-12 15:49                                             ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 16:06                                               ` Bastien [this message]
2013-01-12 16:17                                                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 16:12                                               ` Bastien
2013-01-12 16:24                                                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11  9:12                           ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-10 23:27                       ` Stelian Iancu
2013-01-10 23:27                       ` Stelian Iancu
2013-01-10 20:09                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-10 22:30                   ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 22:55                     ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-11  8:58                     ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-10 19:37             ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-10 19:47 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-13 22:08   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-13 23:06     ` Stelian Iancu
2013-01-13 23:22       ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-14 21:44         ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-15  1:29           ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-15  6:07             ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-15 11:31               ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-15 12:22                 ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-15 13:36                   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-15 13:49                     ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-15 18:58                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-15 20:17                   ` Thorsten Jolitz

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