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From: Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com>
To: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [html] non-lists showing up as lists
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 05:59:13 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ehcjc6em.fsf@breezy.my.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D298A8A2-72DE-43B1-8F35-ED6BDFA9E3CD@gmail.com>


Carsten Dominik writes:

> Hi everyone.
>
> As far as I can see, the filling code is already pretty smart about this issue.   The question is then:  What else can we do about it.
>
After doing some analysis of my problems last night, I agree that
filling is not the issue. All of the instances that I have found in my
own files are the result of pasting in from another file (case law plain
text database or a web page).

> Possibilities:
> 1. We could change the parser to ignore lists where the first
>    item does not start with `1.' or `a)'.  But this would
>    be a pretty serious change.
>
> 2. We could implement a good function that could find problematic
>    cases, so that they can be fixed by hand.  This is basically
>    what Nick proposed - only it would be implemented in Lisp.
>
> 3. We could implement a function that finds and fixes such issues.
>    It would basically scan the buffer and find lists that have
>    only a single item, not starting with 1, and change the wrapping
>    to fix it.
>
> In any case, some hand work would be involved.
> I think we cannot fix this problem in full generality.  The reason
> is simply that Org is a plain text format and has to be heuristic about
> parsing.  There will always be edge cases like this.

I agree with this, Carsten.  As to the choices, it seems to me that the
only real choices here are between 2 or 3.

I can't imagine ever needing a list with a single item, but there might
be a single list item in a partially completed manuscript, so I guess an
"automatic" fix should offer the user the option to leave each instance
alone.

For my purposes, either 2 or 3 would be more than satisfactory.

Cheers,
Alan
>
> Anyone volunteering to write a command that will
> check the buffer and warn about it?  Maybe it could be
> implemented as org-find-next-funny-list-start, so that
> it could be used to search through the whole buffer.
>
> - Carsten
>
>
> On 3 jun. 2013, at 07:45, Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 03/06/13 15:40, Samuel Wales wrote:
>>> I don't recall whether I said I had a filling problem.
>>> 
>>> Filling is a red herring for my use case.
>>> 
>>> My point is that regardless of filling, it would be a good idea to be
>>> stricter about what a list is, for the reasons I listed.  In my use
>>> case.
>>> 
>>> Samuel
>>> 
>> You're right - you said "filling and yanking" in your first post.
>> 
>> As I said to Nick, I don't know if my problems stem from filling or not. Just know there are problems and I will track them down when I have a little time.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Alan
>> 
>> -- 
>> Alan L Tyree                    http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan
>> Tel:  04 2748 6206		sip:172385@iptel.org
>> 
>> 


-- 
Alan L Tyree           http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan
Tel:  04 2748 6206     sip:172385@iptel.org

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-03 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-31 16:54 [html] non-lists showing up as lists Samuel Wales
2013-05-31 17:01 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-05-31 20:39   ` Alan L Tyree
2013-06-01  6:39     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-06-01 19:35       ` Alan L Tyree
2013-06-02  7:57         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-06-02  9:12           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-06-02 20:24           ` Alan L Tyree
2013-06-02 21:40             ` Nick Dokos
2013-06-02 23:05               ` Alan L Tyree
2013-06-03  2:17                 ` Nick Dokos
2013-06-03  4:29                   ` Alan L Tyree
2013-06-03  5:40                     ` Samuel Wales
2013-06-03  5:45                       ` Alan L Tyree
2013-06-03  7:52                         ` Carsten Dominik
2013-06-03 19:59                           ` Alan L Tyree [this message]
2013-06-06 16:37                       ` Bernt Hansen
2013-06-06 17:25                         ` Samuel Wales
2013-06-01 20:10     ` Samuel Wales
2013-06-01 20:18       ` Samuel Wales
2013-06-01 22:58         ` Alan L Tyree
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-06-03  9:54 Michael Strey
2013-06-03 10:05 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-06-03 16:28   ` Samuel Wales
2013-06-04 10:02     ` Bastien
2013-06-04 17:49       ` Samuel Wales
2013-06-06 10:26 Michael Strey

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