From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id +Ai9GaBAn1/1KQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 23:11:28 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id AL6GFaBAn18DXQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 23:11:28 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2F409402A8 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 23:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:40286 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZMVS-0002v7-OT for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 18:11:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55824) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZMUO-0002uo-D5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 18:10:20 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:57401) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZMUK-0003r2-ML for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 18:10:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1604272212; bh=Nq2GTVg5v1OAQFCy7j367CKIeRniSdzDCY8JwT+69gE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date; b=rQFjdYlDHvk+FnOre4TCp6XYtQ/6Ju92nTUxVrzprXgfV5r7XSY1/6DzgZvS7JlG+ Vhwhd+WbxnvZECAuxQYIgTGCXCT3sP9GN7jFCJ4freaavo9bNGLDrnQBn3krjMYGJg ICHb4yMoFczIXowyHz42J7IFJWatXbbJAj+OttM0= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from fluss ([80.136.28.200]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb005 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M91LW-1kTKs93q9m-006HcR; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 00:10:11 +0100 References: <20201101161317.GA6609@maokai> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" To: Daniele Nicolodi Subject: Re: Thoughts on the standardization of Org In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2020 00:10:08 +0100 Message-ID: <87imaoekrz.fsf@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:fQyrVGJps2dTjM3M3jwqfyw/RjxjME/GkiMbcNmeRNmgBRTF0JC UlOy1c/61NMuysBWLF5GogENw2AzB1axf7O+OSfVmtJqWEtFqJISyWUu+ovW+OAIR6hkDMo ljibrXhLI8xxYwkFa4T9RAqlij9wXvZDaoiuuCR95v+wLdB3dfCR8S3j7YqijTkHmTupiQA npHjpzap9pGDdfIbchi5Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:cwglokgbBs0=:k+pdfVRgV9ASeOfazS/wrF mPZ3UAM56By2ozTOH5cU3R4rh1DbvgzsghMuZbSklE1JHSPsDZ2KQfk5QpP/wUb9Wl13B2r0I h6cohYd1b69gWHBoSqQyaFtxI97YrKqLmS+tcek0omlBVD8xmGOIVigKo6PpqeKNTnpOdyzO6 Dp5jrKhMiH8BjIAMNM6yny32AzCVExL4wLfxZD5WZcNRwsI5h/JbuPG9AHvVksY65cj1fGuJO 2XzOPKL7/dCJJOu5D9KG+vLbpNIF4YChRWAH+Ze5jYUx4QkeKswRyc0Ev3zEGdV1M4p2oAlKk OfEmbGBH0Hm5PirZ91UKepm410M3E9kHM+B84O239mIFVIsj8PFCiUBVXAcJM2zPY7/BS3wxM V4Eko5jgKCkvHSGkIKTyUZRg9DxxHf1BdS8sbC2/17cZCvpHhbplOgGMCDLhTe2oGXM1TaZPo GMD1i7EaboIIjiirGWXgZA1YkNshf79HIev03TX8v9ptb2Eqj7evuwNathJMR9LCQfI8I82B/ MG7Am1gp7LG7Q7eBNE2PQ6Ov+AmV/ZbhEs2Nf0malgW3EhYcesCgMOCHg0TPx5/tLhrEpRHIm 4AXWv76RG4ZA6pBSaWiiK0R7i4oAWoVbn8HAp74PB4nIpfN0xwfhWLNaamrYlpPwMGHLdkBwd nurxGPN1LFjZ5O1y38Mgy34116LQI1xlH9dC3sLZipEjhQ3jlsbu8pg1kTw3CzVIbUViZ72Py khlljD2jLJp3QzSO1imkKa6FZdeWJKM9GVBOd8BUFbfzs49d6YWvpjkSMJqj89jxrHo1yYLh7 pocwkmd4oCK3FL3Q0XK0shgP2KUiE7OG2pNo0gbCtiaVijn5/fRPNJpzsObX4RBCW2l7TV5Xt oHo8ZT7LCCPx2tyu0RVw== Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.3; envelope-from=arne_bab@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/01 18:10:15 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=web.de header.s=dbaedf251592 header.b=rQFjdYlD; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=web.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.81 X-TUID: Y3ph+UY5UYsH --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniele Nicolodi writes: > Maybe the standardization should cover only the "static" parts of Org > (ie no table formulas, no babel, no agenda, no exporters, etc). However, > in this case, what is left is little more of a markup language with an > editor that allows sections folding. You can have this on top of pretty > much any markup language using Emacs' outline-minor-mode. It could become stronger competition for asciidoc by being available in more places. Having an acceptance criterion for =E2=80=9Csupports basic org-mode presentation=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ccan edit org-files without breaking edit= ing in org-mode=E2=80=9D could help adoption. That would be the only part I=E2=80=99d really expect from standardization: There would be a clear-cut point when a tool could claim compatibility with org level N or by components (i.e. basic presentation, code-blocks, =E2=80=A6). Having org-files parsed as html on a VCS-infopage is pretty nice. 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