From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id aPzNLN6/imCcnwAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:17:02 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id oJNxKN6/imDeYAAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 14:17:02 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D689C22003 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:59168 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lc7TQ-0000e6-U8 for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:17:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44284) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lc7Sv-0000cS-DB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:16:29 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43110) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lc7Sv-00068i-4Y; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:16:29 -0400 Received: from [78.194.183.21] (port=48386 helo=guerry) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lc7Su-0008Oj-Eb; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:16:28 -0400 Received: by guerry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5C6CF1A60EFA; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:16:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien To: D Subject: Re: Concerns about community contributor support In-Reply-To: <819bee63-7cf1-917c-d77e-b33999d217c8@posteo.net> (D.'s message of "Thu, 29 Apr 2021 14:07:26 +0000") Organization: GNU References: <87pmyuyssi.fsf@gmail.com> <819bee63-7cf1-917c-d77e-b33999d217c8@posteo.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:16:26 +0200 Message-ID: <87o8dx18hx.fsf@bzg.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Timothy Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619705821; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=tzdWnfe5baQ0cD3gQJStQxeuurz0icm+BOWd5+06L1U=; b=C2vqPwF+xEsZf9pBnL+qzHLHOfCzHDnBTJG2z2pJXWEDDVZVMeko5cTZqqas6Um7wFra6l Hw/XtqViW+P/hHiYl/H8WnIK+vrpuoOto924JWKncltT8wp6ey3pKcSgseZZxQv0YvwLH5 6rSx2oxL3CAT6l9ArmtQ81dsIAWv4CDPLPzRGnFNspRZHwSTmf2g3jB3L1RXDCGzQ69wYf 5f7NkYzvXvlGf49aZX3edlbZTQqTBWnWxZV6/lr5+0jHvTukVd5E2J01O9VoogKEP23RRM sTW82uaGZnDpwWOZ1Aqh1sFAbJn4jatmQNOHwjIU9ZLEi8knDRXiS24lU+fLyQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619705821; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Bb0VScn2oG3EE99Qs96Qh3ojPlA21ed/7UF0mmmnatZvDKzemRjBhnoAlYgELtd1blE11f x+j/sVuWU76emaAiGBrr1nPPv6yKCfoUJaZgnxRe4JfICq3mbxbf46Q3vEVhA9Z7eTnKJA MmMqQtQGtpgS6YHeq0W+bWNyw+dLTnPl4W5xxgziccvMIkohU2IVhl4rIUerSFpexa58AH 1RUCMi2MSyCpq/fm2cm2Ukbi3eYUpRMy8L+4y4TPt5xZackVYO7rNCOlknmm0H9kQ1F6bv kiB0MlcFjfIgwZVoKClJMPNAaOvGEhTUqV0daRmqIoKtCx42FN7sYTv6F3EAkA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.96 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D689C22003 X-Spam-Score: -2.96 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: A2JSi7jENT2S Hi, D writes: > TL;DR: Maybe we could improve the visibility of patches by having a > dedicated mailing list for them? This would also allow for a greater > deal of automation in the way we deal with patches. We do have a dedicated information channel for patches: https://updates.orgmode.org/#patches You can subscribe to it with this RSS feed: https://updates.orgmode.org/feed/patches Once subscribed, you will only receive the patches, nothing else. You can track all updates via the gwene.org.orgmode.updates newsgroup on news.gmane.io. This idea is precisely to help people organize their contributions to Org, whether they want to help, fix confirmed bugs or review patches. Of course, https://updates.orgmode.org is in alpha and we can still improve it a lot. In particular, I plan to let it track unconfirmed bugs too, to help with bug triage, and to provide woof.el to ease interaction with this tool directly from within Emacs. Ideas are welcome: https://github.com/bzg/woof/issues In general, I find it good to have a central communication place for the community, where newcomers can learn from more experienced users and I've always resisted to the urge of having e.g. org-users@ and org-devel@ mailing lists, as some projects have. Nowadays, users who don't want to mix with Org's development can interact on many other places (SO, reddit and others). -- Bastien