From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id D46UA8aCVGAeYQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:53:58 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id AOewOsWCVGDtIwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:53:57 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39DAC17A2B for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:53:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:36548 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNClQ-0000HA-CG for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 06:53:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56136) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNCkr-0008UM-K9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 06:53:21 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:43737) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNCkp-0007gA-0Q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 06:53:21 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A63C2400FF for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:53:16 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1616151196; bh=AlccanciVhe5jHF9VeSfFJqGZsi2ZQHniSq79CJF1+E=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=TYTeQ9PJfSamhYQX00Dvr/np4TsizW9I0gEYkiJiQ1gNlrSKeTYj20mU1T29Mj7lt czzU+FgTuq7ZqN6wvNVM6y4sY2hSnrCIli8jSqekwS/SlBk1rH3uI8h3aYujd8Jma/ hihUBW+i+ZxIeeOdLWFWSvYbUYBCFxGijmK6+J8nbF76M3dRSmqWv75RfIxtyNo6dO 4uDwd+a4mHDch2HFP30gnVpa/BP4TGLcXFD4CvbEacwVv8C5pjc9odECJaXmWzpFJK 0V2RsigGGXYArOW+MiVbibN35oMAdEL7v2pQtVxcVL/gX1fYuTC1lbySGz5jfPkN3m pmjVpJVDt0cwA== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4F212g2YJMz6tmf; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:53:15 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: tomas@tuxteam.de Subject: Re: Syntax Proposal: Multi-line Table Cells/Text Wrapping References: <7a450ea3-b0e4-3322-04cd-fb5a5a555db8@gmx.com> <87o8fgwn9s.fsf@gmail.com> <9533dd41-ec81-43dd-8d25-a41300eb720c@gmx.com> <87czvw85ym.fsf@gmail.com> <8735wsdr08.fsf@posteo.net> <20210319080843.GA24268@tuxteam.de> <87ft0rzg5b.fsf@posteo.net> <20210319085339.GC24268@tuxteam.de> <878s6jzeer.fsf@posteo.net> <20210319101420.GA30401@tuxteam.de> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:53:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20210319101420.GA30401@tuxteam.de> (tomas@tuxteam.de's message of "Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:14:20 +0100") Message-ID: <87o8ffxvmt.fsf@posteo.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1616151237; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=AlccanciVhe5jHF9VeSfFJqGZsi2ZQHniSq79CJF1+E=; b=DCMHd/5yTjyFduHKkonM5suOD6j1ePW7X8Itu/g4+56Yym/HSaKzX1Mil5F6TxRyHjRUTZ 5RO+Euo6yC0VG1+ECWyPAlCGYnhkWsiIDY1PN8w2AZQgA6g1THj/3DXDxNkOWX9GNYHmyk 3Ahz9SweeKi7JXNIs8JOkMs7/Oyqy9wOgsK1m/jqsRfi3G0rJhONmDPMGR3r/H+EM0y7XU HqG/FnshIcvtq9czhPr5nWBARqxIKndc6ZKAHTWW0F7PCQsNI1KSmKDMn5NCOpipbaqGjN a66X0EJpdXgQRPS8zC1jb7y4g3+GrcxhaV04u6zzInRBkmglRxRgFJFbhF8L3g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1616151237; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=LklfqcHodnjce6BmZFMAVSpcQy9fBA62x7ejFaVdeJ+6q7NM8yLhtbTGgSs+czaVy/2xzS sbkbbJBEXqkMYw5/8FqUh22oB8w5KLHuQjo1hFptqnrhP1gOzYxbiG+FbeKRSmDQpA/Myb rWAuVodkUbY2mFUOUwR6+bXx0nXd+kUjkKsOoqsX60wbm+aSbmu8scNMSaCnE4JwhKpbfG nNnXNjZVWSmV9Ek1j52tQ95OPRvD5ZvTBJPCV0bZHmQNe7EcfqsNrQNfCshY0ip50wnsAN vmxyN61K++ltkxcmLRmRTa526Ji2unauRN1ajCndBIhYKFiLCP/ZBij5uX9kTQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=TYTeQ9PJ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.11 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=TYTeQ9PJ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 39DAC17A2B X-Spam-Score: -3.11 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: ihxtmt8mO5ez tomas@tuxteam.de writes: > For export formats, there could be (yet another) "signal" to convey > "new paragraph here" which then is the exporter's job. Perhaps an > empty line (as is traditional in TeX) or something else. I think that signal would be a good solution within a single line. For example, for an emergency a simple macro would suffice, something as: #+MACRO: par @@latex:\par{}@@ Anyway, I suspect that Org tables are not originally intended for such a 'literary' content :-) ... LaTeX tabular(x) environment and Org tables have in common that they are plain text, but that=E2=80=99s where the similarities end. Org tables are visual (close to the WYSIWYG concept), which is why they are wonderful when it comes to mere data tables (and n files x n rows). The LaTeX tabular environment is crude, it is not 'visual' (except for the facilities provided by the editor), and when the table becomes large and complex it can be a torture working in there... So perhaps (IMHO) the solution to edit a cell in a dedicated buffer could be the least traumatic in complex cells, in case one wants to avoid going crazy by editing this kind of huge and literary tables in LaTeX ;-) Best regards, Juan Manuel=20