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[106.69.115.131]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u14sm14607272pfc.87.2020.11.29.16.21.23 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 29 Nov 2020 16:21:25 -0800 (PST) References: <87ft4tfgpv.fsf@gmail.com> <874kl9fe7m.fsf@gmail.com> <87wny5dy6j.fsf@gmail.com> <87r1od181i.fsf@gmail.com> <87h7p9135u.fsf@gmail.com> <87zh30xfl1.fsf@gmail.com> <878saj992x.fsf@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.5.7; emacs 27.1.50 From: Tim Cross To: Jeremie Juste Subject: Re: Adding Org Files to org-agenda-files In-reply-to: <878saj992x.fsf@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87o8jfy9ry.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 11:21:21 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::635; envelope-from=theophilusx@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x635.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: daniela-spit@gmx.it, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Jean Louis Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.98 X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Nz95PC08; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-TUID: GEPlabwY6ZdW Jeremie Juste writes: > Hello, > >>> If you have *both* a settings in your emacs init file for >>> org-agenda-files using (setq org-agenda-files...) and you have a line in >>> your (custom ...) section, you should remove one of them to avoid >>> confusion. In general, what is in the custom section will take >>> preference as it is usually loaded last. If your going to remove the one >>> in the custom section, run M-x customize-variable org-agenda-files >>> and then select the options under the 'state' button to 'Erase >>> Customisation', don't just erase the values in the 'Value Menu' box. >> >> Emacs automatically introduced the custom, did not write it myself. >> > I fear I might have been the source of the confusion by suggesting > the command (org-agenda-file-to-front), which has triggered another > definition of org-agenda-file in the custom-set-variables section. I > hadn't realized fully the consequences. > > I apologize for this and I hope that it won't turn any user > against each other. I must confess that among the mailing-lists I have > subscribed to, this mailing list is the most cordial. > > Yes using both the `custom-set-variables` section and setting variable > can introduce confusion. I am sure many of us have fallen prey to > (counting me many times). > > At the same time it is convenient for some people to be able to > customize easily some variable and some users might use > custom-set-variables exclusively. > > We just need to understand the consequences of it and I guess many > users of emacs eventually come to do with these two options and even use > the best of both world modifying directly variables in the init files > and using the custom-set-variables section. > > It is a bug? I wouldn't say so. Can we explain to (new) users better > about it? Probably. > I think your right. In addition, based on more info which has come out on the list, I agree with what Kyle has pointed out re: variable to tell org to ignore missing files. This needs to be referenced in the manual and the documentation for org-agenda-files. If nobody else has done it by the time I have finished my current priorities, I will put a patch together to add such references. This won't be for a couple of weeks. -- Tim Cross