From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Scot Becker Subject: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:36:03 +0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01494b9a18fa3f04e838572b Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33746) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTUeT-0002EQ-A1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 06:36:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTUeO-0002gN-ME for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 06:36:29 -0400 Received: from mail-qc0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22c]:52174) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTUeO-0002ez-IE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 06:36:24 -0400 Received: by mail-qc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id l13so5879700qcy.17 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 03:36:24 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org-mode ml --089e01494b9a18fa3f04e838572b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full Emacs+org-mode on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. You can either download the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 or download the toolchain and source from their website and compile it yourself (which I haven't tried). https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyne.zshaolin&hl=en http://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/ (for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the page) Emacs is version 24.1.50. The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work: export TMPDIR=${HOME}/tmp They only claim 'barebone' Emacs, and I haven't tested extensively to see what that means, but so far it works for me. I have no affiliation with the people at dyne.org, just happy to have working portable, org-mode. I use a Bluetooth keyboard with a 7" tablet on Android 4.3. It looks like compiling in this case may not be for the faint of heart, but if someone tries it, perhaps they can post any notes to the list here. Cheers, Scot --089e01494b9a18fa3f04e838572b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just a quick note to say that it's possible to ge= t a full Emacs+org-mode on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zsha= olin'. =A0You can either download the app from the Google Play store fo= r approx $3 or download the toolchain and source from their website and com= pile it yourself (which I haven't tried).


(for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the = page)

Emacs is version 24.1.50. =A0

=
The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to wo= rk:

export TMPDIR=3D${HOME}/tmp
<= br>

They only claim 'barebone' Emacs, and = I haven't tested extensively to see what that means, but so far it work= s for me. =A0

I have no affiliation with the people at dyne.org, just happy to have working portable, org-mode. = I use a Bluetooth keyboard with a 7" tablet on Android 4.3.

It looks like compiling in this case may not be for the fain= t of heart, but if someone tries it, perhaps they can post any notes to the= list here.=A0

Cheers,
Scot

--089e01494b9a18fa3f04e838572b-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ian Barton Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 09:07:07 +0100 Message-ID: <52550EAB.4060406@wilkesley.net> References: Reply-To: ian@manor-farm.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58799) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTonc-0007Ju-83 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 04:07:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTonW-0005dA-93 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 04:07:16 -0400 Received: from mail2.wilkesley.net ([109.74.196.44]:34857 helo=li40-130.members.linode.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTonW-0005cx-2Y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 04:07:10 -0400 Received: from scamper2.bantercat.co.uk (unknown [46.33.134.31]) (Authenticated sender: lists@wilkesley.net) by li40-130.members.linode.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2EF0A1D0017 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 09:07:08 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 08/10/13 11:36, Scot Becker wrote: > Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full Emacs+org-mode > on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. You can either > download the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 or download > the toolchain and source from their website and compile it yourself > (which I haven't tried). > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyne.zshaolin&hl=en > > http://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/ > (for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the page) > > Emacs is version 24.1.50. > > The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work: > > export TMPDIR=${HOME}/tmp > Thanks for sharing. I have been using emacs via ssh on my Nexus 7. However, obviously this only works if I can get an Internet connection. So far this setup looks as though it will meet all my simple mobile needs, which are just to edit my org files in native Emacs. I see that git is also built in. I haven't tested it yet, but if it works I can just pull and push my org files from my repos, rather than copying them to the Nexus manually. Ian. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alexander Vorobiev Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:57:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: <52550EAB.4060406@wilkesley.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53832) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTuGu-0000t6-PS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 09:57:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTuGp-0002sL-SO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 09:57:52 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22d]:35680) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTuGp-0002s8-JZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 09:57:47 -0400 Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id mc17so941784pbc.4 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 06:57:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52550EAB.4060406@wilkesley.net> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: ian@manor-farm.org Cc: emacs-orgmode There is also emacs for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs but after trying it and playing with some other ports of unix applications, I decided to bit the bullet and install full Ubuntu on my Galaxy Note 8 using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid. The tablet/phone needs to be rooted though (the installer needs to be able to create and mount loopback device for the Linux disk image) but for the popular devices it is not difficult at all (but You will probably lose your warranty though). Now I have my regular emacs setup with org-mode, ess, AucTeX, tramp, etc, and all the tools I am used to - ssh, R, gcc, etc. I use it in console mode using Android terminal, regular Ubuntu GUI is also available through VNC client. There is no dual-boot or virtualization involved, all it does is chroot in the terminal session, Android's Linux kernel is standard enough to make Ubuntu happy. Regards, Alex On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Ian Barton wrote: > On 08/10/13 11:36, Scot Becker wrote: >> >> Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full Emacs+org-mode >> on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. You can either >> download the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 or download >> the toolchain and source from their website and compile it yourself >> (which I haven't tried). >> >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyne.zshaolin&hl=en >> >> http://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/ >> (for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the page) >> >> Emacs is version 24.1.50. >> >> The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work: >> >> export TMPDIR=${HOME}/tmp >> > Thanks for sharing. I have been using emacs via ssh on my Nexus 7. However, > obviously this only works if I can get an Internet connection. So far this > setup looks as though it will meet all my simple mobile needs, which are > just to edit my org files in native Emacs. > > I see that git is also built in. I haven't tested it yet, but if it works I > can just pull and push my org files from my repos, rather than copying them > to the Nexus manually. > > Ian. > > > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Scot Becker Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:13:47 +0500 Message-ID: References: <52550EAB.4060406@wilkesley.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bb0448a99c6e104e8654a7c Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49620) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUIsQ-0007Y5-3u for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:14:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUIsK-0006qD-Ot for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:14:14 -0400 Received: from mail-qe0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c02::22b]:62855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUIsK-0006px-Ig for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:14:08 -0400 Received: by mail-qe0-f43.google.com with SMTP id nc12so2086436qeb.2 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 09:14:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Alexander Vorobiev Cc: ian@manor-farm.org, emacs-orgmode --047d7bb0448a99c6e104e8654a7c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Alex, That also sounds like a good way to carry Emacs/org with your, if the battery life hit isn't too big, (is it?) and if it's possible to keep the system running in the background (do you do ths?) Emacs for Android didn't work for me at all, and seems not to be currently maintained. After some more experiments I see that although Zhaolin works pretty well with an external keyboard, the terminal emulator seems to have more trouble with the soft keyboard popping up and down. I do have press ESC then Enter to get a new org heading. ALT+Enter doesn't seem to work. Scot On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Alexander Vorobiev < alexander.vorobiev@gmail.com> wrote: > There is also emacs for Android > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs but > after trying it and playing with some other ports of unix > applications, I decided to bit the bullet and install full Ubuntu on > my Galaxy Note 8 using > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid > . > The tablet/phone needs to be rooted though (the installer needs to be > able to create and mount loopback device for the Linux disk image) but > for the popular devices it is not difficult at all (but You will > probably lose your warranty though). > > Now I have my regular emacs setup with org-mode, ess, AucTeX, tramp, > etc, and all the tools I am used to - ssh, R, gcc, etc. I use it in > console mode using Android terminal, regular Ubuntu GUI is also > available through VNC client. There is no dual-boot or virtualization > involved, all it does is chroot in the terminal session, Android's > Linux kernel is standard enough to make Ubuntu happy. > > Regards, > Alex > > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Ian Barton wrote: > > On 08/10/13 11:36, Scot Becker wrote: > >> > >> Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full Emacs+org-mode > >> on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. You can either > >> download the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 or download > >> the toolchain and source from their website and compile it yourself > >> (which I haven't tried). > >> > >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyne.zshaolin&hl=en > >> > >> http://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/ > >> (for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the page) > >> > >> Emacs is version 24.1.50. > >> > >> The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work: > >> > >> export TMPDIR=${HOME}/tmp > >> > > Thanks for sharing. I have been using emacs via ssh on my Nexus 7. > However, > > obviously this only works if I can get an Internet connection. So far > this > > setup looks as though it will meet all my simple mobile needs, which are > > just to edit my org files in native Emacs. > > > > I see that git is also built in. I haven't tested it yet, but if it > works I > > can just pull and push my org files from my repos, rather than copying > them > > to the Nexus manually. > > > > Ian. > > > > > > > > --047d7bb0448a99c6e104e8654a7c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alex,=A0

That also sounds like a good w= ay to carry Emacs/org with your, if the battery life hit isn't too big,= (is it?) and if it's possible to keep the system running in the backgr= ound (do you do ths?)

Emacs for Android didn't work for me at all, and se= ems not to be currently maintained. =A0

After some= more experiments I see that although Zhaolin works pretty well with an ext= ernal keyboard, the terminal emulator seems to have more trouble with the s= oft keyboard popping up and down. =A0I do have press ESC then Enter to get = a new org heading. =A0ALT+Enter doesn't seem to work.

Scot



=


On Wed,= Oct 9, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Alexander Vorobiev <alexander.vorobi= ev@gmail.com> wrote:
There is also emacs for Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=3Dcom.ziel= m.emacs but
after trying it and playing with some other ports of unix
applications, I decided to bit the bullet and install full Ubuntu on
my Galaxy Note 8 using
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details= ?id=3Dcom.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid.
The tablet/phone needs to be rooted though (the installer needs to be
able to create and mount loopback device for the Linux disk image) but
for the popular devices it is not difficult at all (but You will
probably lose your warranty though).

Now I have my regular emacs setup with org-mode, ess, AucTeX, tramp,
etc, and all the tools I am used to - ssh, R, gcc, etc. I use it in
console mode using Android terminal, regular Ubuntu GUI is also
available through VNC client. There is no dual-boot or virtualization
involved, all it does is chroot in the terminal session, Android's
Linux kernel is standard enough to make Ubuntu happy.

Regards,
Alex



On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Ian Barton <lists@wilkesley.net> wrote:
> On 08/10/13 11:36, Scot Becker wrote:
>>
>> Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full Emac= s+org-mode
>> on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. =A0Y= ou can either
>> download the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 or downl= oad
>> the toolchain and source from their website and compile it yoursel= f
>> (which I haven't tried).
>>
>> https://play.google.com/store/app= s/details?id=3Dorg.dyne.zshaolin&hl=3Den
>>
>> http://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/
>> (for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the pa= ge)
>>
>> Emacs is version 24.1.50.
>>
>> The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work= :
>>
>> export TMPDIR=3D${HOME}/tmp
>>
> Thanks for sharing. I have been using emacs via ssh on my Nexus 7. How= ever,
> obviously this only works if I can get an Internet connection. So far = this
> setup looks as though it will meet all my simple mobile needs, which a= re
> just to edit my org files in native Emacs.
>
> I see that git is also built in. I haven't tested it yet, but if i= t works I
> can just pull and push my org files from my repos, rather than copying= them
> to the Nexus manually.
>
> Ian.
>
>
>


--047d7bb0448a99c6e104e8654a7c-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alexander Vorobiev Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:18:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: <52550EAB.4060406@wilkesley.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUKpC-0007Tm-Jz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:19:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUKp7-00070j-5E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:19:02 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22a]:34269) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUKp6-00070A-U2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:18:57 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id lj1so3147861pab.29 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 11:18:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Scot Becker Cc: Ian Barton , emacs-orgmode Scot, I haven't notice much impact on the battery life but, given all the services/demons typical ubuntu system launches, there must be some consequences for the battery for sure. I do leave it running in background (by not exiting terminal). I also noticed some keybindings that don't work (M- and M-RET in particular) but their ESC- counterparts work fine. It looks like that might be a problem of the Android Terminal. Regards, Alex On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Scot Becker wrote: > Alex, > > That also sounds like a good way to carry Emacs/org with your, if the > battery life hit isn't too big, (is it?) and if it's possible to keep the > system running in the background (do you do ths?) > > Emacs for Android didn't work for me at all, and seems not to be currently > maintained. > > After some more experiments I see that although Zhaolin works pretty well > with an external keyboard, the terminal emulator seems to have more trouble > with the soft keyboard popping up and down. I do have press ESC then Enter > to get a new org heading. ALT+Enter doesn't seem to work. > > Scot > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Alexander Vorobiev > wrote: >> >> There is also emacs for Android >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs but >> after trying it and playing with some other ports of unix >> applications, I decided to bit the bullet and install full Ubuntu on >> my Galaxy Note 8 using >> >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid. >> The tablet/phone needs to be rooted though (the installer needs to be >> able to create and mount loopback device for the Linux disk image) but >> for the popular devices it is not difficult at all (but You will >> probably lose your warranty though). >> >> Now I have my regular emacs setup with org-mode, ess, AucTeX, tramp, >> etc, and all the tools I am used to - ssh, R, gcc, etc. I use it in >> console mode using Android terminal, regular Ubuntu GUI is also >> available through VNC client. There is no dual-boot or virtualization >> involved, all it does is chroot in the terminal session, Android's >> Linux kernel is standard enough to make Ubuntu happy. >> >> Regards, >> Alex >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Ian Barton wrote: >> > On 08/10/13 11:36, Scot Becker wrote: >> >> >> >> Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full >> >> Emacs+org-mode >> >> on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. You can either >> >> download the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 or download >> >> the toolchain and source from their website and compile it yourself >> >> (which I haven't tried). >> >> >> >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyne.zshaolin&hl=en >> >> >> >> http://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/ >> >> (for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the page) >> >> >> >> Emacs is version 24.1.50. >> >> >> >> The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work: >> >> >> >> export TMPDIR=${HOME}/tmp >> >> >> > Thanks for sharing. I have been using emacs via ssh on my Nexus 7. >> > However, >> > obviously this only works if I can get an Internet connection. So far >> > this >> > setup looks as though it will meet all my simple mobile needs, which are >> > just to edit my org files in native Emacs. >> > >> > I see that git is also built in. I haven't tested it yet, but if it >> > works I >> > can just pull and push my org files from my repos, rather than copying >> > them >> > to the Nexus manually. >> > >> > Ian. >> > >> > >> > >> > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ian Barton Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 16:05:33 +0100 Message-ID: <525AB6BD.60804@wilkesley.net> References: <52550EAB.4060406@wilkesley.net> Reply-To: ian@manor-farm.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43135) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVNEt-000867-Iz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:05:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVNEm-0003hb-96 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:05:51 -0400 Received: from mail2.wilkesley.net ([109.74.196.44]:44623 helo=li40-130.members.linode.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVNEm-0003hO-35 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:05:44 -0400 Received: from scamper2.bantercat.co.uk (unknown [46.33.134.31]) (Authenticated sender: lists@wilkesley.net) by li40-130.members.linode.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 193471CE07E for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 16:05:41 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 09/10/13 14:57, Alexander Vorobiev wrote: > There is also emacs for Android > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs but > after trying it and playing with some other ports of unix > applications, I decided to bit the bullet and install full Ubuntu on That looks interesting too. I have to see if it runs on my Nexus 7. Emacs for Android is like a bus. You wait ages and nothing comes, then suddenly two arrive together. Ian. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Charles Philip Chan Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 00:17:57 -0400 Message-ID: <87li1vmakq.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> References: <52550EAB.4060406@wilkesley.net> <525AB6BD.60804@wilkesley.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60559) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVw2c-0006bp-JP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 00:15:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVw2V-00046L-7W for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 00:15:30 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::230]:58290) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVw2V-00046H-1F for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 00:15:23 -0400 Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id u16so6812093iet.21 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:15:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <525AB6BD.60804@wilkesley.net> (Ian Barton's message of "Sun, 13 Oct 2013 16:05:33 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org-mode --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian Barton writes: > That looks interesting too. I have to see if it runs on my Nexus > 7. Emacs for Android is like a bus. You wait ages and nothing comes, > then suddenly two arrive together. I tried it on my Nexus 7 and it works. In order for org-mode to work, you will need to set the $TMP environmental variable. Also, for font size greater than 12 pt, you will need to start Emacs in landscape mode, or else Emacs wouldn't start. Charles =2D-=20 "Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX." (By Stephan Zielinski) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlJcwgEACgkQ3epPyyKbwPZoSACcD7DW9usFdQr1RUhA0PXlPMsB 1xUAnR5yKLkQpybiluUPLEuI0jZJRkg3 =fd/p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 07:14:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D4CEB35F-DE90-4C6E-85E7-FE052CF4C641"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VW7Oq-0007My-Kg for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:23:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VW7Ol-0007N8-1z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:23:12 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::230]:39671) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VW7Ok-0007Mh-S0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:23:06 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id b13so7694898wgh.3 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 09:23:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Scot Becker Cc: Org-mode ml --Apple-Mail=_D4CEB35F-DE90-4C6E-85E7-FE052CF4C641 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On 8.10.2013, at 12:36, Scot Becker wrote: > Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full = Emacs+org-mode on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. = You can either download the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 = or download the toolchain and source from their website and compile it = yourself (which I haven't tried). >=20 > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=3Dorg.dyne.zshaolin&hl=3De= n >=20 > http://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/ > (for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the page) >=20 > Emacs is version 24.1.50. =20 I just tried it, and when I start emacs I get an error message that the = directory /sdcard/emacs/etc is not present. Emacs seems to look there = for a file called "charsets". Does anyone know what I am missing here? Thanks - Carsten >=20 > The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work: >=20 > export TMPDIR=3D${HOME}/tmp >=20 >=20 > They only claim 'barebone' Emacs, and I haven't tested extensively to = see what that means, but so far it works for me. =20 >=20 > I have no affiliation with the people at dyne.org, just happy to have = working portable, org-mode. I use a Bluetooth keyboard with a 7" tablet = on Android 4.3. >=20 > It looks like compiling in this case may not be for the faint of = heart, but if someone tries it, perhaps they can post any notes to the = list here.=20 >=20 > Cheers, > Scot >=20 --Apple-Mail=_D4CEB35F-DE90-4C6E-85E7-FE052CF4C641 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSXM8dAAoJEO+gg/nAZuwMth8H/1wP7aawmWEXoP1awE49VI+8 59TrLLX2sZVqun8OwrXWmZZl4CRJaOa9HiSA7ytjiZibWHTOGbydAVbfpsIviK6X o3adYxQ/OSGeWwR2A/vF+b987GSEWbm9q+l7Izj7EamqXOuUyZoWGP8aP/jxp3dZ hP0n5DyvGTw9KSiHWCegB76yI2ezQx8IaCZOYYzLTJvyjd8exE58jIy12XIpvX4U 2zzB4gzAuM0FnuJTtSOoOCR5bWel0o4eDEwroAya+iAvVQ8N3u/tyqwKE8Kxcesz vMnqFgqIRowomOKxE3AD7fCoNvMX3TsXi782tcRUb6UzINUsiDlNzhRIcXBD9eg= =6CO7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_D4CEB35F-DE90-4C6E-85E7-FE052CF4C641-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jaromil Subject: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:51:50 +0200 Message-ID: <20131015215150.GA19392@mail.dyne.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56308) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWCXA-0001iA-7Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:52:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWCX3-0005Bs-P7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:52:08 -0400 Received: from assata.dyne.org ([178.21.114.142]:53697) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWCX3-00059c-Gz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:52:01 -0400 Received: from assata.dyne.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by filter.mynetwork.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A23300965 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:51:55 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all, apologies for breaking the threading as I just subscribed to the list and thanks for trying out ZShaolin :^) I am happy to see some of the experts here find it useful. The Emacs included in my APK is "experimental" and so far comes without elisp files, which you can add from your own collection, inside /sdcard/Emacs. then Emacs in Zshaolin should work without problems and with all loaded extensions (one could also simply install the Emacs for Android app which provides them). I'm trying to find the time to update the app and include a working Emacs out of the box, so far without much success because of lack of time and other priorities: ZShaolin includes a lot more software and currently I am working on a modular install system, sort of package based, somehow minimal enough to fit the style of the app. There are also other priorities like UTF8 support in the terminal (which is an older version of JackPal's)... Overall ZShaolin is not complete and still somehow far from 1.0, however for using Emacs and Orgmode should be enough to add that directory in the sdcard, I use such a setup myself, with some difficulties because of the Esc key in Android and such things as the software keyboard popping up which was mentioned, for which installing the "null keyboard" app is a possible solution. I'll keep in touch via this mailinglist, so welcome troubles :^) and suggestions. And many thanks Carsten and all devs for orgmode: rocks. ciao --=20 http://jaromil.dyne.org GPG: 6113 D89C A825 C5CE DD02 C872 73B3 5DA5 4ACB 7D10 NEW! superseeding old key C2B68E39 due to expiration date signature and revokation history on pgp.mit.edu - plz upd --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQQcBAEBCAAGBQJSXbjxAAoJEHOzXaVKy30QIekf/1U7/hJVwlxt29jM8/gW10py sK7FMljFbd6+wN1DkRj3625MMJWMvAVe1BchDvrmtb19yqrmIHXVO0XLUgFKxiYG 2JYQmj9e8Jzq/m/WS5lK+0thDmzLqeALSR9DRDoX+O6Omd1OfSBzW7vjtKWm5SCf DA/SdoG3D0oKFAtdcotrad1MmV/3n4iiGZvqi/zFr04FofLbaWAux8OPxuJxU8cj NJ+gtaKpwaYOqRyw+70UHigElmr2TaBmtLepN900mu90p0nMjz8TV5b9XfchDsz0 U/gk+B5bTOZwgJrfMQSzn+Z6bD4ixCyXNPLXZjqYVANpC1EILer25xpyL9T9dky7 ta1f3CgnZ/XghtRYLuCwCSmHrRcoNMrG23N10oWYTnK88a9i/Vhckf4LM724IMrE BEA2LfJKE2xTxOPZQAIcmEFugX5w7Mwu1VfYBMbFdLy7+UGn2tMJJLF1mODVHTro Op5eSdZxHpU+OwPI8wqNGECE62pw19kYqSxDBwJVgk4+kGXVqDYuw2D+HPIllosC 9Mp2cju219ykF+TtcgOX23U+/jf7+YdEj2ftyPCAHOLV4hIVbje8b8sC/m5zimR2 H7NSkrVyZzsqQ6bWeylGuyAq49J2XL4QaVUFYLNcLrVCiLfFMLbX6pxsKk0UFVRS w1AX1wNRGG4kapB/Asdt3vYrN1wl/UirA1jlawbdKvgk8QBg6fgKZkB/x62aIVQO a4ECal3Hq8SxRALaZ4IwVmKjiNj4q6Y2qeZ5iQMtf7aXMF3GTXVxVd0v+fQOQ38L vBDURoEBLv/eYLHhgBCMcJWT+zyq+Bjvxzv3KLXaaj6QWJSko553MewiZaGBD63c Z2BX3KVaiYx2cFBXX5SrxD96aBoMcgdj8NyKb/JXabSACklQb6ZOlzOunXbZKIc2 MOkf+Zdi6ORdL3+lX+bgv7zeJF3Qwlut3/C9C8ENrzr7clnHg3nJPOHaE5CefXBT qAiJ+klGwywRWCRIQ1v8bmeDSpu+3QlJuRMJMw6a7lpWX7d6ONqc5fvBqYCUmO2E U+6o3xmN0VXzJK37nPphWGbYoyIQyN+qtjQ017Jsegt2yBD7g9klI4k0rJ3XGlpK TSk7b9OIZFZnvVXY9xutHq/P5APhEJO2PKjNfrLlaO7xBNJoP26EmUXajx/mqtIj UXI8cyasmUT79FBrnCGIVVvrvAEKZAwm4irJ7DryIKMcV3Nmqp+6MZalwv4ibBKT CJWJdSTnSRUvIngz0ZsvD/Rh9KMD4OwOER/ZeFuNyyhMIM0sryjNddPZzyGJpFmw D7hsbTi2m+znxTDjorOO+BCcKI+MHrbfwi0nuFiMbBdHeEMKHY+D4eyRM3lpEJ0= =TKuc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Scot Becker Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:30:11 +0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c373e686fd3e04e97a1f52 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33938) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZIBa-0001JG-QO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:30:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZIBY-0004sE-DI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:30:38 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22d]:44372) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZIBX-0004rk-9J for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:30:35 -0400 Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id hp15so1744758lab.32 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 03:30:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: Org-mode ml --001a11c373e686fd3e04e97a1f52 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Drat. I had that problem at the beginning too. I filed a bug report and a little later, things worked. I assumed they had fixed it. I'll have a look in that directory to see what's there. Meanwhile, perhaps a reboot, or a rerun the command "download system" in Zshaolin. On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On 8.10.2013, at 12:36, Scot Becker wrote: > > > Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full Emacs+org-mode > on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. You can either > download the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 or download the > toolchain and source from their website and compile it yourself (which I > haven't tried). > > > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyne.zshaolin&hl=en > > > > http://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/ > > (for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the page) > > > > Emacs is version 24.1.50. > > > I just tried it, and when I start emacs I get an error message that the > directory /sdcard/emacs/etc is not present. Emacs seems to look there for > a file called "charsets". Does anyone know what I am missing here? > > Thanks > > - Carsten > > > > > The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work: > > > > export TMPDIR=${HOME}/tmp > > > > > > They only claim 'barebone' Emacs, and I haven't tested extensively to > see what that means, but so far it works for me. > > > > I have no affiliation with the people at dyne.org, just happy to have > working portable, org-mode. I use a Bluetooth keyboard with a 7" tablet on > Android 4.3. > > > > It looks like compiling in this case may not be for the faint of heart, > but if someone tries it, perhaps they can post any notes to the list here. > > > > Cheers, > > Scot > > > > --001a11c373e686fd3e04e97a1f52 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Drat. =A0I had that problem at the beginning too. =A0I fil= ed a bug report and a little later, things worked. =A0I assumed they had fi= xed it. =A0I'll have a look in that directory to see what's there. = =A0Meanwhile, perhaps a reboot, or a rerun the command "download syste= m" in Zshaolin. =A0




On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8.10.2013, at 12:36, Scot Becker <scot.becker@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full Emacs+or= g-mode on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. =A0You= can either download the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 or do= wnload the toolchain and source from their website and compile it yourself = (which I haven't tried).
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/de= tails?id=3Dorg.dyne.zshaolin&hl=3Den
>
> h= ttp://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/
> (for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the page)<= br> >
> Emacs is version 24.1.50.


I just tried it, and when I start emacs I get an error message that t= he directory /sdcard/emacs/etc is not present. =A0Emacs seems to look there= for a file called "charsets". =A0Does anyone know what I am miss= ing here?

Thanks

- Carsten

>
> The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work: >
> export TMPDIR=3D${HOME}/tmp
>
>
> They only claim 'barebone' Emacs, and I haven't tested ext= ensively to see what that means, but so far it works for me.
>
> I have no affiliation with the people at dyne.org, just happy to have working portable, org-mod= e. I use a Bluetooth keyboard with a 7" tablet on Android 4.3.
>
> It looks like compiling in this case may not be for the faint of heart= , but if someone tries it, perhaps they can post any notes to the list here= .
>
> Cheers,
> Scot
>


--001a11c373e686fd3e04e97a1f52-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:39:59 +0200 Message-ID: <84AD9F69-855B-4E85-A17C-6187B27F3C9E@gmail.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46978) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZN17-0008Gs-J1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:40:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZN11-0005YX-Sx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:40:09 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]:53362) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZN11-0005Vs-Ml for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:40:03 -0400 Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id l12so2771750wiv.2 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:40:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Scot Becker Cc: Org-mode ml On 24.10.2013, at 12:30, Scot Becker wrote: > Drat. I had that problem at the beginning too. I filed a bug report = and a little later, things worked. I assumed they had fixed it. I'll = have a look in that directory to see what's there. Meanwhile, perhaps a = reboot, or a rerun the command "download system" in Zshaolin. =20 Download system? I don't see this command. - Carsten >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Carsten Dominik = wrote: >=20 > On 8.10.2013, at 12:36, Scot Becker wrote: >=20 > > Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full = Emacs+org-mode on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. = You can either download the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 = or download the toolchain and source from their website and compile it = yourself (which I haven't tried). > > > > = https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=3Dorg.dyne.zshaolin&hl=3Den > > > > http://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/ > > (for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the = page) > > > > Emacs is version 24.1.50. >=20 >=20 > I just tried it, and when I start emacs I get an error message that = the directory /sdcard/emacs/etc is not present. Emacs seems to look = there for a file called "charsets". Does anyone know what I am missing = here? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > - Carsten >=20 > > > > The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work: > > > > export TMPDIR=3D${HOME}/tmp > > > > > > They only claim 'barebone' Emacs, and I haven't tested extensively = to see what that means, but so far it works for me. > > > > I have no affiliation with the people at dyne.org, just happy to = have working portable, org-mode. I use a Bluetooth keyboard with a 7" = tablet on Android 4.3. > > > > It looks like compiling in this case may not be for the faint of = heart, but if someone tries it, perhaps they can post any notes to the = list here. > > > > Cheers, > > Scot > > >=20 >=20 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Charles Philip Chan Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:57:30 -0400 Message-ID: <87ob6eslud.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> References: <84AD9F69-855B-4E85-A17C-6187B27F3C9E@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50683) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZNFZ-00021k-Ab for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:55:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZNFQ-0004tA-Jh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:55:05 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]:49997) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZNFQ-0004sh-Ew for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:54:56 -0400 Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id u16so4226398iet.18 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from karnak.MagnumOpus.khem (bas10-toronto01-845463080.dsl.bell.ca. [50.100.190.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i3sm2000902igh.0.2013.10.24.08.54.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:54:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <84AD9F69-855B-4E85-A17C-6187B27F3C9E@gmail.com> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:39:59 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org-mode --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Carsten Dominik writes: Hi Carsten: > Download system? I don't see this command. He meant check to see if you have the latest in "Install System". Charles =2D-=20 I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody. It doesn't generate revenue. (Dave '-ddt->` Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlJpQ3UACgkQ3epPyyKbwPYMZwCfZkaJU8UThZu1l2uvgZ3OaVXG wpkAnA/UhBIRgRmG9T7oDccG+Y6Meu89 =DH87 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:02:24 +0200 Message-ID: References: <84AD9F69-855B-4E85-A17C-6187B27F3C9E@gmail.com> <87ob6eslud.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_AAA38EAB-6952-40A2-8853-6C7D48C152B9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52576) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZNMz-0005XZ-Nc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:02:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZNMt-0000iu-Tb for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:02:45 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]:49638) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZNMt-0000iN-Mv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:02:39 -0400 Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id h11so2804131wiv.16 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:02:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ob6eslud.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Charles Philip Chan Cc: Org-mode --Apple-Mail=_AAA38EAB-6952-40A2-8853-6C7D48C152B9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 0.7.1, and to problem is still present. - Carsten On 24.10.2013, at 17:57, Charles Philip Chan wrote: > Carsten Dominik writes: > > Hi Carsten: > >> Download system? I don't see this command. > > He meant check to see if you have the latest in "Install System". > > Charles > > -- > I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody. It doesn't generate revenue. > (Dave '-ddt->` Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux) --Apple-Mail=_AAA38EAB-6952-40A2-8853-6C7D48C152B9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSaUSaAAoJEO+gg/nAZuwM72QH/1TFNymYBqiLLzsqFnlUqLtW dsJZqlO0nE8+IonkuYNJtyH5woiO/Bc1ifxerrTWrQduPix3nhMVnmn7jk5wgNBt yXDC621Bh/Rrh7tpcE+mzo0N3O7wJdDSVpPXR9A0bPfxy9BA5NcRflv8g0Z+yLtk tMk3YljdV5xWfgHHmeIfstGAbI+hzN071qoWiDhItLyYz+k4wB+KXlRzTHIzhiqv bbD98QS8+0JQ90bLzcl5WL/fh+8lUQEvxWN+7uXMxCy14R/kit3SLr1eVCAGHxK4 GMr+d49f0MQgQLU+r4QIt2eIXHhYAuY3RHHwM5exWU8bTFq/Ny3svITZehe3p6c= =TZXr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_AAA38EAB-6952-40A2-8853-6C7D48C152B9-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Charles Philip Chan Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:22:24 -0400 Message-ID: <87k3h2skov.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> References: <84AD9F69-855B-4E85-A17C-6187B27F3C9E@gmail.com> <87ob6eslud.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56158) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZNdd-0002bN-81 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:20:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZNdU-0000sN-QB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:19:57 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::231]:52270) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZNdU-0000rt-Di for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:19:48 -0400 Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id e14so4298637iej.36 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from karnak.MagnumOpus.khem (bas10-toronto01-845463080.dsl.bell.ca. [50.100.190.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hv5sm2046480igb.9.2013.10.24.09.19.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:19:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Carsten Dominik's message of "Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:02:24 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org-mode --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Carsten Dominik writes: Hi Carsten: > 0.7.1, and to problem is still present. Strange, what happens when you do a: ,---- | ls /sdcard/emacs/etc/charsets `---- I see a list of charsets files (files with extension .map) on my Nexus 7. If you don't see them, try reinstalling the system to see if it helps. Charles =2D-=20 "However, complexity is not always the enemy." -- Larry Wall (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlJpSUoACgkQ3epPyyKbwPaZ2QCgvcJn0Q/56CZ3FWcmKzHo/48g wCIAmgM6f4QjE9Zlxps99c145iT3rmMr =+c/m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:28:17 +0200 Message-ID: <25C8133F-62C0-405F-A62C-C26CFFAA44AC@gmail.com> References: <84AD9F69-855B-4E85-A17C-6187B27F3C9E@gmail.com> <87ob6eslud.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <87k3h2skov.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DE819C55-8639-4D33-A74B-D72E9703693A"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59352) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZhRL-0000eB-L7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:28:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZhRF-0006aY-Ps for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:28:35 -0400 Received: from mail-ee0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c00::229]:54175) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZhRF-0006aO-HS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:28:29 -0400 Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id d49so1988746eek.14 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 06:28:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87k3h2skov.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Charles Philip Chan Cc: Org-mode --Apple-Mail=_DE819C55-8639-4D33-A74B-D72E9703693A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 24.10.2013, at 18:22, Charles Philip Chan wrote: > Carsten Dominik writes: >=20 > Hi Carsten: >=20 >> 0.7.1, and to problem is still present. >=20 > Strange, what happens when you do a: >=20 > ,---- > | ls /sdcard/emacs/etc/charsets > `---- Not even the emacs directory on the sdcard exists. And yes, I *do* have = an sdcard... Reinstalling dos not work. - Carsten >=20 > I see a list of charsets files (files with extension .map) on my > Nexus 7. If you don't see them, try reinstalling the system to see if = it > helps. >=20 > Charles >=20 > --=20 > "However, complexity is not always the enemy." >=20 > -- Larry Wall (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates) --Apple-Mail=_DE819C55-8639-4D33-A74B-D72E9703693A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSanH6AAoJEO+gg/nAZuwM3BAH+wWSfPOho9SnN+a0Mt3sjGZu vVZJ62cF5GPWDK0RqRgFOvvfSFoNzWabjR/Vfz6zFIQlNorKk2Tucmde03KCOTkR luLffO16KdpI38dUQAcvtV7J9WCfWSot62GSIqdao4NGhCN3URmEm4uRxPKvY4Fg qHhAnt+ibHVFejv9qQF915sGG/YR6TxRQ0cjWLPMn4c+9JXwWSKDetQgiYC6y7rG mUt3Heib1BmSmuI/8+7irM7bXavtQyJLrKxhR4ijpbBQsXJzc7nexOsf7RtoqmmC U7DeCol8ugdkeR26hreweKk/VLuMN5tPG0JFM7C8zyuqq5ptA7Pt0I44Sowae+k= =qusv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_DE819C55-8639-4D33-A74B-D72E9703693A-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Scot Becker Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:44:43 +0500 Message-ID: References: <84AD9F69-855B-4E85-A17C-6187B27F3C9E@gmail.com> <87ob6eslud.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <87k3h2skov.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <25C8133F-62C0-405F-A62C-C26CFFAA44AC@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343cd25c583904e99e5e6e Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60714) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZwgP-0001qS-81 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 01:45:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZwgN-0005LL-Jv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 01:45:09 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f]:36637) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZwgN-0005Jo-7C for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 01:45:07 -0400 Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id ep20so3776501lab.34 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 22:45:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <25C8133F-62C0-405F-A62C-C26CFFAA44AC@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: Charles Philip Chan , Org-mode --047d7b343cd25c583904e99e5e6e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I also have a bunch of *.map files in that directory. And am also on Nexus 7 (2013). Oddly, on this tablet Charles and I /don't/' have an sdcard, since there is no physical slot for it. (I assume the directory is so labeled for compatibility, and ---in case it helps--- points to '/storage/emulated/0') You actually have an SD card and get no 'emacs' directory. I wonder if the /emacs directory got installed to another place, or if it somehow didn't get installed at all. I'll revoke my "bug fixed" comment on the bug I filed on the developers' bug tracker , and reference this conversation. Oddly, just now that server is unreachable to me. I did just send a short note on their web-contact form , where you can also find their IRC channel, if you want to contact them. I have since had a little more trouble with org-mode on Zhaolin using 16pt font. (odd cursor jump after column 70). I don't seem to have the problem with 20pt font (which limits the terminal size). Please scold me if HTML email and links are unwelcome. I haven't been active on this list in a few years, and forget the protocol. I hope this eventually works well. I may try a full linux as instead, but org-mode on non-rooted Android is useful. Scot On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On 24.10.2013, at 18:22, Charles Philip Chan wrote: > > > Carsten Dominik writes: > > > > Hi Carsten: > > > >> 0.7.1, and to problem is still present. > > > > Strange, what happens when you do a: > > > > ,---- > > | ls /sdcard/emacs/etc/charsets > > `---- > > Not even the emacs directory on the sdcard exists. And yes, I *do* have > an sdcard... > Reinstalling dos not work. > > - Carsten > > > > > I see a list of charsets files (files with extension .map) on my > > Nexus 7. If you don't see them, try reinstalling the system to see if it > > helps. > > > > Charles > > > > -- > > "However, complexity is not always the enemy." > > > > -- Larry Wall (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates) > > --047d7b343cd25c583904e99e5e6e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I also have a bunch of *.map files in that directory. =A0A= nd am also on Nexus 7 (2013). =A0Oddly, on this tablet Charles and I /don&#= 39;t/' have an sdcard, since there is no physical slot for it. (I assum= e the directory is so labeled for compatibility, and ---in case it helps---= points to '/storage/emulated/0') =A0You actually have an SD card a= nd get no 'emacs' directory. I wonder if the /emacs directory got i= nstalled to another place, or if it somehow didn't get installed at all= .

I'll revoke my "bug fixed" comment on the bug = I filed on the developers' bug tracke= r, and reference this conversation. =A0Oddly,=A0just now that server is= unreachable to me.=A0 I did just send a short note on their web-contact form, where you can also find t= heir IRC channel, if you want to contact them. =A0
=A0
I have since had a little more trouble with org-mode on Zhaol= in using 16pt font. =A0(odd cursor jump after column 70). =A0I don't se= em to have the problem with 20pt font (which limits the terminal size). =A0
=A0Please scold me if HTML email and links are unwelcome. = =A0I haven't been active on this list in a few years, and forget the pr= otocol.

I hope this eventually works well. =A0I ma= y try a full linux as instead, but org-mode on non-rooted Android is useful= . =A0


Scot



On Fri, Oct 25, = 2013 at 6:28 PM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

On 24.10.2013, at 18:22, Charles Philip Chan <cpchan@bell.net> wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <carst= en.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Hi Carsten:
>
>> 0.7.1, and to problem is still present.
>
> Strange, what happens when you do a:
>
> ,----
> | ls /sdcard/emacs/etc/charsets
> `----

Not even the emacs directory on the sdcard exists. =A0And yes, I *do*= have an sdcard...
Reinstalling dos not work.

- Carsten

>
> I see a list of charsets files (files with extension .map) on my
> Nexus 7. If you don't see them, try reinstalling the system to see= if it
> helps.
>
> Charles
>
> --
> "However, complexity is not always the enemy."
>
> =A0-- Larry Wall (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)


--047d7b343cd25c583904e99e5e6e-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jaromil Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 01:23:43 +0100 Message-ID: <20131119002343.GA30238@mail.dyne.org> References: <84AD9F69-855B-4E85-A17C-6187B27F3C9E@gmail.com> <87ob6eslud.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <87k3h2skov.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <25C8133F-62C0-405F-A62C-C26CFFAA44AC@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52929) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViZ6p-0001kA-W5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:24:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViZ6l-0008DU-GP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:24:03 -0500 Received: from tupac.dyne.org ([141.105.125.173]:56708) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViZ6l-0008BI-1U for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:23:59 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <25C8133F-62C0-405F-A62C-C26CFFAA44AC@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org-mode Cc: Charles Philip Chan , carsten.dominik@gmail.com --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dear Carsten and org-mode list, while you have discovered (too early!) ZShaolin having a working version of Emacs that could decenlty run org-mode on an Android, I've been caught in a kind of guilty complex by reading your mails and not having time to fix things. I must admit, as I have admitted elsewhere, that the inclusion of Emacs was still experimental in ZShaolin 0.7 (and that's why is not a 1.0). I've always wanted to have Emacs org-mode usable on a tablet myself and I consider that an ultimate goal of this development. In 0.7 There was an issue with TMPDIR, easy to guess and repair, and then one with the elisp files which are not included in ZShaolin, rather shipped with another app I'm going to depend upon for the time being. > On 24.10.2013, at 18:22, Charles Philip Chan wrote: > > Hi Carsten: > >> 0.7.1, and to problem is still present. > > Strange, what happens when you do a: > >=20 > > ,---- > > | ls /sdcard/emacs/etc/charsets > > `---- > > Carsten Dominik writes: > Not even the emacs directory on the sdcard exists. And yes, I *do* > have an sdcard... Reinstalling dos not work. In ZShaolin I'm building almost everyting with my own toolchain, but for the Emacs build I'm trusting Zielmicha which IMHO has made the the best Android build around. For the Emacs user, my app adds to it a sane shell envionment and terminal to work. But when you start emacs in ZShaolin there are no elisp files: these must be installed into sdcard/emacs and this can be done by simply installing com.zielm.emacs: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=3Dcom.zielm.emacs If both ZShaolin and this app above are installed, Emacs in ZShaolin will start and autoload org-mode. Some things can be still made better, to start faster for instance, like removing most language support since Google's bionic lib has removed NLS and wide char support (they've been so short sighted to support locales only in Java...) Of course there is still a missing piece, that is ZShaolin itself :^) since you need to buy it or build it, which isn't trivial at the moment. For those here who like to try it then please accept my humble homage: a standalone version of ZShaolin based on the latest version 0.9 where I've managed to fix for most issues related to Emacs, which won't update nor will require the Google Play market, and basically contains ZSh, Emacs and a few other utilities like GnuPG, Ssh and Git. https://files.dyne.org/zshaolin/.org-mode/ Providing you with this is really the minimum I can do, as a very happy and enthusiast org-mode user since years: it facilitates in so many ways my life, it is almost embarassing to find myself in this position now. Many thanks! ciao =20 --=20 http://jaromil.dyne.org GPG: 6113 D89C A825 C5CE DD02 C872 73B3 5DA5 4ACB 7D10 NEW! superseeding old key C2B68E39 due to expiration date signature and revokation history on pgp.mit.edu - plz upd --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQQcBAEBCAAGBQJSiq+KAAoJEHOzXaVKy30QbYcf/3SBAd7Wm9t4Vc4hjM1Zkz8d B/+DzrM6ajPY0eVSzvOiriK1Yf6KrrP0H8Cs1UzxsoafUKM96Q4yXXOe1nT+1Xrq HBJh1/ZYFRAysuzfOdrS8OYp87CXe2BuyLzvqjlJX1xpz1B1EmN1u353/tKYJA53 HplyNEV0ejuY0dqzS6mRVvPA7bC7Z0xL8EI9k6FeqNAjRjv7rV3p2/k7iuVVyKbz m3pc8zkYje3fLCdwTXFzdlIO/K4nigOmbhvEe/FFnFfdheVEPF8LGkg99Fd2p3W8 LHx1jPOmwU4TS5+RVUKUTsVquLooIwHGosC+HrtIK5l6Q9LJda4viePYAVNV+Aqp BWfd+qXJd26Ld6TMA2bj0g8vIRPDG2zAmfzHgjo/dYIPtenxSiGN3Z8oZXwLUSk/ +46CtXtMs6ImH5t6ZSglrULe70cwcblgRje/t6MHNnSOZzECGTcMOCSJhqzCvcgI VhrDhSlGzNOeGwNenhb3uS5Xd2dKUcUkA5D/wYAfeor1CGDvkQTb7vMGxcQ7XxAr EEdFp26Llxv8ycEL0P2bXaO4wdc/z36AzKt1n8dCnJH5ofOb5dZshIw8UtXWdhzq OYDgktIHzIUajiwrlITp6Y4dxNwTGuSjduVyQk2L5WeK1C5GA8MY2/iP5DK5rSmq XyxSfLFqftw/7FobpXPFnWdvDDW7gYaNsDCxfEy8M88ycg/rKabnVgFnJdLWZamc noBJVOknjKP5lMrqpr3ZUJmUOTuK4eGTPiVMl8ijusKY7GjxG+1MFLkXMIsTJko+ hsw/onsjoGFwUH8lAd31EZVmKliWSeXzVmT+Sol7q0LJOd4USlcXWosobtcEaq3V 8Zcnjmli2Tk6+xiOt+SF6Ib2lTu9foS0wRlcZV+xlSmee7hudPor3msXrhVaipyi V+xHxHudXM+ULOezgZ6JoKph8J6WjIMcOZXEiVwGNdOMARuUtDiaRlJyFoL6H6o2 2pHpfi+2yaBLhKXVMRE0Wc+/67WADwi6IdERLaUQ85M9zh9VeKlI1Q9Sb8tKubXY vuQxsDdjFXg8QNdhEEKLr58BBeMNmO3kXeWK3W+yVDXC3BPc9Zk7F0n2B6s/nnac Xu16j2lWcfr6LXmcwwrM5SotH1yQz4p9En+1X0aCkAR4TB74RpB0tWENRCZs+fGC r6oO8absho+rC7Rbn9bj+CjNNW40EmwBZsNUbhKNYUHb8GTLnkjopUe4OMRJ4QT+ NrBU9llXoBePBrw9stiQJMwwdYMfTBQiLsmR3ZeNxvtilw6wRNvzRm74L6N4ST4F 6D9iQ7VLLSkw1Y7S/MKTnV/cSdQRIIGwPYeAHjRAKtikpIrr7MiIsY0ddjfKu8Y= =DAyp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric S Fraga Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 11:50:34 +0000 Message-ID: <87iov334ad.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> References: <84AD9F69-855B-4E85-A17C-6187B27F3C9E@gmail.com> <87ob6eslud.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <87k3h2skov.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <25C8133F-62C0-405F-A62C-C26CFFAA44AC@gmail.com> <20131119002343.GA30238@mail.dyne.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38087) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoXSK-0007UU-0z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:51:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoXSD-0001sF-8q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:50:55 -0500 Received: from mail-db8lp0187.outbound.messaging.microsoft.com ([213.199.154.187]:30840 helo=db8outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoXSD-0001rq-0e for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:50:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20131119002343.GA30238@mail.dyne.org> (jaromil@dyne.org's message of "Tue, 19 Nov 2013 01:23:43 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Jaromil Cc: Org-mode Jaromil writes: [...] > For those here who like to try it then please accept my humble homage: a > standalone version of ZShaolin based on the latest version 0.9 where > I've managed to fix for most issues related to Emacs, which won't update > nor will require the Google Play market, and basically contains ZSh, > Emacs and a few other utilities like GnuPG, Ssh and Git. > https://files.dyne.org/zshaolin/.org-mode/ Providing you with this is > really the minimum I can do, as a very happy and enthusiast org-mode > user since years: it facilitates in so many ways my life, it is almost > embarassing to find myself in this position now. Many thanks! Thank you for this. I am keen to try this out as my previous experience with Emacs on my Nexus systems has been less than ideal. I've installed the apk from the stated place on a Nexus 4; I will try my Nexus 7 later as the 7 will likely be more usable. I've subsequently "installed" a new version (0.9) using the second button from the top. I have been able to start it and get the shell. However, typing emacs always gives an error: ,---- | Warning: arch dependent data dir (/sdcard/emcs/etc) does not exist. | Error: charsets directory not found: /sdcard/emacs/etc/charsets | ... | Please check your installation. `---- What do I need to do? It would appear that my installation is not complete. Thanks, eric -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.2.3c-250-gd35233 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Charles Philip Chan Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 07:10:59 -0500 Message-ID: <87r49rfqgc.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> References: <84AD9F69-855B-4E85-A17C-6187B27F3C9E@gmail.com> <87ob6eslud.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <87k3h2skov.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <25C8133F-62C0-405F-A62C-C26CFFAA44AC@gmail.com> <20131119002343.GA30238@mail.dyne.org> <87iov334ad.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoXir-0001jD-Qu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 07:08:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoXim-0007Nq-4f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 07:08:01 -0500 Received: from mail-ie0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f]:49652) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoXil-0007Nd-W1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 07:07:56 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id x13so29577405ief.34 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 04:07:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from karnak.MagnumOpus.khem ([65.94.49.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p5sm3281882igj.10.2013.12.05.04.07.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Dec 2013 04:07:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87iov334ad.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> (Eric S. Fraga's message of "Thu, 5 Dec 2013 11:50:34 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org-mode --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric S Fraga writes: Hi Eric: > What do I need to do? It would appear that my installation is not > complete. You need to install this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=3Dcom.zielm.emacs too. Charles =2D-=20 "...Deep Hack Mode--that mysterious and frightening state of consciousness where Mortal Users fear to tread." (By Matt Welsh) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlKgbV8ACgkQ3epPyyKbwPaAyQCfR03hr/+uTvOLpKmuWe7uoabw /MQAoJz4TZA92gHNTsLh22BhLzy2SHdl =UUTF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric S Fraga Subject: Re: Full org-mode on unrooted Android Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 13:44:48 +0000 Message-ID: <87bo0v2yzz.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> References: <84AD9F69-855B-4E85-A17C-6187B27F3C9E@gmail.com> <87ob6eslud.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <87k3h2skov.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <25C8133F-62C0-405F-A62C-C26CFFAA44AC@gmail.com> <20131119002343.GA30238@mail.dyne.org> <87iov334ad.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87r49rfqgc.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35119) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoZEm-0005hb-Lp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 08:45:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoZEf-0002rC-GA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 08:45:04 -0500 Received: from am1ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com ([213.199.154.205]:52114 helo=am1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoZEf-0002po-7a for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 08:44:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87r49rfqgc.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> (Charles Philip Chan's message of "Thu, 5 Dec 2013 07:10:59 -0500") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Charles Philip Chan Cc: Org-mode Charles Philip Chan writes: > Eric S Fraga writes: > > Hi Eric: > >> What do I need to do? It would appear that my installation is not >> complete. > > You need to install this: > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs Ah, I misunderstood the original posting. To me, it seemed to imply that the second (external to play store) link superseded the first link. I've now done this and I'm getting further. Emacs starts up but trying to get into org-mode (e.g. visiting a file called t.org) fails with Wrong type argument: stringp, (require . t-mouse) I have to get some work done now but I'll come back to this later to investigate, now that I know that there is hope! Need to dig out my BT keyboard as well... Thanks, eric -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.2.3c-250-gd35233