From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa Subject: [OT] Xiki - could something like that be done with emacs+orgmode? Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:17:06 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3ba86ffd0d9b04c9efa59d Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37107) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDmR2-0005sx-BK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:17:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDmR1-0002Um-B9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:17:08 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com ([209.85.223.169]:56018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDmR1-0002Uc-6M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:17:07 -0400 Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so2915958ied.0 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:17:06 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org Mode --e89a8f3ba86ffd0d9b04c9efa59d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi list, I've found a pretty interesting piece of software today. It's called Xiki, check out the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR_eUVcABg&feature=youtu.be I'm wondering it something like that could be done with emacs (and possibly integrating orgmode to add the outlining features)? That could be interesting. Just food for thought, Cheers! - Marcelo. --e89a8f3ba86ffd0d9b04c9efa59d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi list,

I've found a pretty interesting piece of so= ftware today. It's called Xiki, check out the video:


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- Marcelo.
--e89a8f3ba86ffd0d9b04c9efa59d-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: [OT] Xiki - could something like that be done with emacs+orgmode? Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:23:47 +0200 Message-ID: <87vcfbaapy.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54352) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDv0Q-0005A6-Ic for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:26:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDv0K-0002wP-DB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:26:14 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:56813) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDv0K-0002vC-5y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:26:08 -0400 Received: by wgbdt14 with SMTP id dt14so1861191wgb.30 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:26:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Marcelo de Moraes Serpa's message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:17:06 -0500") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa Cc: Org Mode Hi Marcelo, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa writes: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR_eUVcABg&feature=youtu.be > > I'm wondering it something like that could be done with emacs (and > possibly integrating orgmode to add the outlining features)? * [[shell:ls -l]] * shell:pwd ... etc etc. I think pretty all the features described here are already available with some elisp. The basic idea is that the command prompt and the results are of the same kind: text you can edit, and that can produce an output... that you can further reuse as a command. Which is the core idea of Org. If there is any specific feature displayed in the video that seems useful for Org, let us know. My 2 cents, -- Bastien From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eden Cardim Subject: Re: [OT] Xiki - could something like that be done with emacs+orgmode? Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:54:51 -0300 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35235) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDw9u-0006Rq-1E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:40:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDw9p-0004aC-No for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:40:05 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:35209) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDw9p-0004Yc-GZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:40:01 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TDw9s-0003Hb-1s for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:40:04 +0200 Received: from 189.33.129.92 ([189.33.129.92]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:40:04 +0200 Received: from eden by 189.33.129.92 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:40:04 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>> "Marcelo" == Marcelo de Moraes Serpa writes: Marcelo> Hi list, I've found a pretty interesting piece of Marcelo> software today. It's called Xiki, check out the video: Marcelo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR_eUVcABg&feature=youtu.be Marcelo> I'm wondering it something like that could be done with Marcelo> emacs (and possibly integrating orgmode to add the Marcelo> outlining features)? It's already done in emacs, see https://github.com/trogdoro/xiki From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa Subject: Re: [OT] Xiki - could something like that be done with emacs+orgmode? Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:06:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51ba2bb73007504c9fb3ca8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51476) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDzNp-0002ZN-Dc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:06:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDzNj-0002BF-J0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:06:41 -0400 Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com ([209.85.216.48]:59535) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDzNj-0002B8-FJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:06:35 -0400 Received: by qady1 with SMTP id y1so114262qad.0 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:06:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Eden Cardim Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --bcaec51ba2bb73007504c9fb3ca8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 @Bastien, Yeah, I've been thinking about the link approach or perhaps babel, thank you for the suggestions! @Eden, That's awesome! Looks like I didn't do the proper research... Thank you guys, - Marcelo. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Eden Cardim wrote: > >>>>> "Marcelo" == Marcelo de Moraes Serpa writes: > > Marcelo> Hi list, I've found a pretty interesting piece of > Marcelo> software today. It's called Xiki, check out the video: > > Marcelo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR_eUVcABg&feature=youtu.be > > Marcelo> I'm wondering it something like that could be done with > Marcelo> emacs (and possibly integrating orgmode to add the > Marcelo> outlining features)? > > It's already done in emacs, see https://github.com/trogdoro/xiki > > > --bcaec51ba2bb73007504c9fb3ca8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @Bastien,=A0Yeah, I've been thinking about the link approach or perhaps= babel, thank you for the suggestions!

@Eden, That's= awesome! Looks like I didn't do the proper research...

Thank you guys,

- Marcelo.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Eden Cardi= m <eden@insoli.de> wrote:
>>>>> "Marcelo" =3D= =3D Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celo= serpa@gmail.com> writes:

=A0 =A0 Marcelo> Hi list, I've found a pretty interesting piece of =A0 =A0 Marcelo> software today. It's called Xiki, check out the vid= eo:

=A0 =A0 Marcelo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3DbUR_eUVcABg&feature=3Dyoutu.be

=A0 =A0 Marcelo> I'm wondering it something like that could be done = with
=A0 =A0 Marcelo> emacs (and possibly integrating orgmode to add the
=A0 =A0 Marcelo> outlining features)?

It's already done in emacs, see https://github.com/trogdoro/xiki



--bcaec51ba2bb73007504c9fb3ca8-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Luis Anaya Subject: Re: [OT] Xiki - could something like that be done with emacs+orgmode? Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:49:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60184) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TE03E-00025k-CI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:49:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TE034-0000pW-O6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:49:28 -0400 Received: from blu0-omc1-s31.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.42]:7608) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TE034-0000p7-Km for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:49:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Marcelo de Moraes Serpa's message of "Mon\, 17 Sep 2012 20\:17\:06 -0500") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa Cc: Org Mode Marcelo de Moraes Serpa writes: > Hi list, > > I've found a pretty interesting piece of software today. It's called Xiki, > check out the video: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR_eUVcABg&feature=youtu.be It's interesting, but it has its challenges. I tried to install it to play with it and... well, it's still there in zombie mode; I've not followed through with it. This is what I found out: 1. Requires ruby and uses el4r. That by itself is not bad, but it is overhead to run the application. The installation process is a chore. I'm not a ruby programmer although I'm familiar with the language. Other than I had to compile ruby from source (which is not bad) trying to get it to work within el4r is not straightforward. If you do not know ruby or el4r, it does complicates its installation. 2. Uses emacs or vim or some other editors in experimental mode, and I think that it's limited to graphic mode. I tried to run it from the console and I got a "Face -9" error. So, what good is a shell if you can't run it from the console? It might have been pilot error but makes me wonder. 3. I think that Bastien mention that items can be done in babel being that it allows to get data form different sources. In terms of its interface, it's pretty nifty, but the real magic happens because it's running within an editor. My 2 cents... -- Luis Anaya papo anaya aroba hot mail punto com "Do not use 100 words if you can say it in 10" - Yamamoto Tsunetomo From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andrew Hyatt Subject: Re: [OT] Xiki - could something like that be done with emacs+orgmode? Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:37:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87vcfbaapy.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47573) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEB6m-00073V-Mw for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:37:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEB6j-0004ly-E9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:37:52 -0400 Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:33832) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEB6j-0004ls-8n for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:37:49 -0400 Received: by vbkv13 with SMTP id v13so726186vbk.0 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:37:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87vcfbaapy.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bastien Cc: Org Mode , Marcelo de Moraes Serpa The xiki video is interesting, and I immediately thought of babel. However, babel sh-mode doesn't have support for execution yet. Even if it did, it wouldn't be a really good alternative, due to babel's verbosity. One idea is to have a babel subtree (or buffer) that is keyed to a specific language, so that everything under it is assumed to be an executable statement. Something like: * Project A ** Shell :PROPERTIES: :BABEL-TYPE: sh :END: ls - file1 - file2 - file3 run_server ouput-buffer ** Next thing Where the files and output-buffer are linked. The interaction within the BABEL-TYPE heading would be similar to the *scratch* buffer, just execute and it gives you the result immediately below. Except the result should work be org-output, and linked when appropriate. Babel would be handling this, but it wouldn't need the boilerplate for each command, or each output. The idea to use [[shell:ls]] and things like that is also useful, but right now the output goes to a different buffer, and is not otherwise tied in with org-mode. This is why I think babel might be a better fit for this type of functionality. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Bastien wrote: > Hi Marcelo, > > Marcelo de Moraes Serpa writes: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR_eUVcABg&feature=youtu.be >> >> I'm wondering it something like that could be done with emacs (and >> possibly integrating orgmode to add the outlining features)? > > * [[shell:ls -l]] > > * shell:pwd > > ... etc etc. > > I think pretty all the features described here are already available > with some elisp. > > The basic idea is that the command prompt and the results are of the > same kind: text you can edit, and that can produce an output... that you > can further reuse as a command. Which is the core idea of Org. > > If there is any specific feature displayed in the video that seems > useful for Org, let us know. > > My 2 cents, > > -- > Bastien > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Sean O'Halpin" Subject: Re: [OT] Xiki - could something like that be done with emacs+orgmode? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 07:27:13 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87vcfbaapy.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48663) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEDki-0004c6-Ef for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:27:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEDkg-0000s2-JN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:27:16 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:50495) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEDkg-0000rf-EX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:27:14 -0400 Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so1934109pbb.0 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:27:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org Mode On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Andrew Hyatt wrote: > The xiki video is interesting, and I immediately thought of babel. > However, babel sh-mode doesn't have support for execution yet. Not sure what you mean by that. Place cursor in source block and hit C-c, e.g. #+BEGIN_ORG * Shell example #+begin_src sh date #+end_src #+RESULTS: : Wed Sep 19 07:24:17 BST 2012 #+END_ORG Regards, Sean From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: [OT] Xiki - could something like that be done with emacs+orgmode? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:40:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87392es9ky.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55081) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEFbI-0001MN-7M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:25:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEFbC-0002dF-UO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:25:40 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:33902) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEFbC-0002cw-Hl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:25:34 -0400 Received: by wgbdt14 with SMTP id dt14so453551wgb.30 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:25:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Luis Anaya's message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:49:08 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Luis Anaya Cc: Org Mode , Marcelo de Moraes Serpa Luis Anaya writes: > In terms of its interface, it's pretty nifty, but the real magic happens > because it's running within an editor. Exactly. It'd be somehow ironical for Emacs to mimic the features of a software that uses an editor to mimic the features of a shell, especially given the fact many consider Emacs an operating system. :) -- Bastien From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andrew Hyatt Subject: Re: [OT] Xiki - could something like that be done with emacs+orgmode? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:49:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87vcfbaapy.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42133) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TES8k-0004TN-4n for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:49:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TES8j-0006vk-64 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:49:02 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com ([209.85.223.169]:36171) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TES8j-0006vY-27 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:49:01 -0400 Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so2645120ied.0 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:49:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Sean O'Halpin Cc: Org Mode That's odd, I get "No org-babel-execute function for sh!". I think I just hadn't require'd ob-sh, and when I did this fixed the problem. Thanks! My point about removing the boilerplate still stands, however. If I have some free time in the next month, I may try to see if I can get it removed as I proposed above. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Sean O'Halpin wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Andrew Hyatt wrote: > >> The xiki video is interesting, and I immediately thought of babel. >> However, babel sh-mode doesn't have support for execution yet. > > Not sure what you mean by that. Place cursor in source block and hit C-c, e.g. > > #+BEGIN_ORG > * Shell example > > #+begin_src sh > date > #+end_src > > #+RESULTS: > : Wed Sep 19 07:24:17 BST 2012 > > #+END_ORG > > Regards, > Sean > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Torsten Wagner Subject: Re: [OT] Xiki - could something like that be done with emacs+orgmode? Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:32:13 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87vcfbaapy.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44458) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEUgi-0001g5-Bv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:32:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEUgh-0002ka-59 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:32:16 -0400 Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:51285) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEUgg-0002j6-VL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:32:15 -0400 Received: by vcbfl17 with SMTP id fl17so2090963vcb.0 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:32:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andrew Hyatt Cc: Org Mode hi, I gave Xiki a try and it turned out to be an dependency hell on arch linux. After installing dozen of packages from AUR, I managed to get it up and running. Its nice and some of the ideas could be shamelessly stolen for org/org-babel. E.g. the mouse-support is great and would fit well to org if we think of emacs on tablets. However, I think it is in a very very early stage and one would need to see how it develops. I do not like the ruby-bridge. This looks to me very fragile and I had bad experience with python. Those bridges tend to break whenever there is a change on one of the sides ext. language or emacs. It also changed the entire appearance resp. face of my emacs session not sure why it did this. Feels a bit invasive and alienating. Nevertheless, its good that this kind of things get tested out and maybe in a future release of Emacs, we can see some of the ideas in the Emacs core. Totti On 20 September 2012 06:49, Andrew Hyatt wrote: > That's odd, I get "No org-babel-execute function for sh!". I think I > just hadn't require'd ob-sh, and when I did this fixed the problem. > Thanks! > > My point about removing the boilerplate still stands, however. If I > have some free time in the next month, I may try to see if I can get > it removed as I proposed above. > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Sean O'Halpin wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Andrew Hyatt wrote: >> >>> The xiki video is interesting, and I immediately thought of babel. >>> However, babel sh-mode doesn't have support for execution yet. >> >> Not sure what you mean by that. Place cursor in source block and hit C-c, e.g. >> >> #+BEGIN_ORG >> * Shell example >> >> #+begin_src sh >> date >> #+end_src >> >> #+RESULTS: >> : Wed Sep 19 07:24:17 BST 2012 >> >> #+END_ORG >> >> Regards, >> Sean >> > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Schulte Subject: Re: [OT] Xiki - could something like that be done with emacs+orgmode? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:59:51 -0600 Message-ID: <87ipb95x0b.fsf@gmx.com> References: <87vcfbaapy.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39514) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEV8I-0004Qz-UZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:00:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEV8H-000133-GX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:00:46 -0400 Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com ([213.165.64.43]:52726) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEV8H-00012U-3m for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:00:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Andrew Hyatt's message of "Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:49:00 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andrew Hyatt Cc: Org Mode Andrew Hyatt writes: > That's odd, I get "No org-babel-execute function for sh!". I think I > just hadn't require'd ob-sh, and when I did this fixed the problem. > Thanks! > For security reasons evaluation is not turned on by default. The relevant chapter of the manual is a very good resource [1]. > > My point about removing the boilerplate still stands, however. If I > have some free time in the next month, I may try to see if I can get > it removed as I proposed above. > You can insert code-block templates by typing