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From: "Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com>
To: David Maus <dmaus@ictsoc.de>
Cc: Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: using orgmode to send html mail?
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:52:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wrwnqf39.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 876348nb9m.wl%dmaus@ictsoc.de

David Maus <dmaus@ictsoc.de> writes:

> Eric Schulte wrote:
>>David Maus <dmaus@ictsoc.de> writes:
>
>>> Eric Schulte wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thinking functional this might be the first function of
>>>>> org-mail-htmlize[1]: Create a html representation of message body if
>>>>> necessary or appropriate.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>Oh, so this would be a slightly different issue,
>>>
>>>>So this function could be run *every* time an email is sent.  I agree
>>>>that in those cases running on the entire message would be the right way
>>>>to go.
>>>
>>> Right, this would be nice for people who are obliged to send out html
>>> messages.  If this is turned on org-mime should display the string
>>> "HTML" in the mode line.  In the WL it's done this way:
>>>
>>> ,----
>>> | (defun dmj/wl-send-html-message-draft-init ()
>>> |   "Create buffer local settings for maybe sending html message."
>>> |   (unless (boundp 'dmj/wl-send-html-message-toggled-p)
>>> |     (setq dmj/wl-send-html-message-toggled-p nil))
>>> |   (make-variable-buffer-local 'dmj/wl-send-html-message-toggled-p)
>>> |   (add-to-list 'global-mode-string
>>> |                '(:eval (if (eq major-mode 'wl-draft-mode)
>>> |                            dmj/wl-send-html-message-toggled-p))))
>>> `----
>>>
>>> This function is hooked into mime-edit mode and set's a buffer local
>>> variable that indicates "html message mode" and is displayed in the
>>> mode line.
>>>
>
>>Another option here is to add a defadvice to the actual sending command
>>(C-c C-c in gnus) such that if the command is called with a prefix
>>argument, then `org-mime-htmlize' is run on the entire message before
>>mail delivery.  To me this seems like a simpler solution than the above.
>
> Yes, somehow we have to hook or defadvice before mml/semi translates
> the message buffer to real MIME.  I'm not sure about the defadive: We
> would change functioallity of the translating function globally.
>

I've done this previously.  Luckily orgstruct-mode already intercepts
C-c C-c (which is used to send mail in gnus) and it is not difficult to
check for a prefix argument at that stage (before any mime encoding) and
optionally run an html conversion there.

>
>>>
>>> What I meant was: Suppose you write a document in Org with references
>>> to external files (images etc.).  If finished you'd like this document
>>> to a fellow by mail including all external files.  So this function
>>> collects all these files, and maybe converts the message body to html,
>>> fires up Gnus/WL with a new message and inserts something like
>>>
>>> < #multipart type="alternate">
>>> < #part type="text/plain"> ...plain text body...
>>> < #part type="text/html"> ...html body...
>>> < #/multipart>
>>> < #multipart type="mixed">
>>> < #part type="image/png"> image1.png
>>> < #part type="image/png"> image2.png
>>>   ...
>>> < #/multipart>
>>>
>>> That is: The original document including all external files -- and all
>>> references in the original file are replaced by references to the
>>> attachments.
>>>
>
>>If I'm understanding correctly both you and Dan seem to be in favor
>>of exporting to mime and packaging up the raw mime information from
>>the org-mode buffer. I'm leaning towards thinking that it may be
>>easier to simply bring the mail buffer to the org-mode file by saving
>>it to a temporary location alongside the org-mode file (so all links
>>resolve).  It will probably take some experimentation to find out
>>which approach is more feasible/natural.
>
> Funny thing: It's basically the same operation, only difference is in
> the original content's source:
>
>     +------------+
>     | Org buffer |--+
>     +------------+  |    +------------+   +----------------+
>                     +--->| MIME setup |-->| Message buffer |
> +----------------+  |    +------------+   +----------------+
> | Message buffer |--+
> +----------------+
>

Yup, I looks like it will just be a question of how to position the
resulting message buffer so that all of the references resolve.

Thanks -- Eric

>
>  -- David
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-04 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-22  2:34 using orgmode to send html mail? Matt Price
2010-03-22 15:44 ` Matt Price
2010-03-22 20:18 ` David Maus
2010-03-23 19:54   ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-23 21:46     ` Xiao-Yong Jin
2010-03-24 15:00       ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-24 17:50         ` Dan Davison
2010-03-24 18:01           ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-24 19:12             ` David Maus
2010-03-24 20:19               ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-25 21:17                 ` David Maus
2010-03-26 14:53                   ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-26 16:04                     ` David Maus
2010-03-26 16:32                       ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-31 18:12                         ` [CONTRIB?] " Eric Schulte
2010-03-31 20:05                           ` Dan Davison
2010-03-31 21:10                             ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-31 21:37                               ` Dan Davison
2010-04-01 14:22                                 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-05  5:39                                   ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-05  6:49                                     ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-05 15:31                                       ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-09 16:41                                         ` [ANN] org-mime -- " Eric Schulte
2010-04-09 17:41                                           ` Matt Price
2010-04-09 19:11                                             ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-09 19:22                                             ` David Maus
2010-04-09 20:34                                               ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-12 13:37                                           ` Andrew Hyatt
2010-04-12 17:22                                             ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-13  1:31                                               ` Andrew Hyatt
2010-04-14  0:57                                                 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-14  1:57                                                   ` Andrew Hyatt
2010-04-14 14:59                                                     ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-14 18:00                                                       ` Andrew Hyatt
2010-04-14 19:26                                                         ` Bernt Hansen
2010-04-14  8:39                                                   ` Eric S Fraga
2010-04-14 15:12                                                     ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-14 19:38                                                       ` Eric S Fraga
2010-04-15  2:49                                                         ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-15 15:47                                                           ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-13 23:03                                           ` Eric S Fraga
2010-04-14  1:22                                             ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-05 13:54                                     ` [CONTRIB?] " Dan Davison
2010-04-05 14:50                                       ` David Maus
2010-04-05 14:53                                       ` Dan Davison
2010-04-05 15:30                                         ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-01 17:37                           ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2010-04-01 17:45                           ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2010-03-31 20:37                         ` David Maus
2010-03-31 22:03                           ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-02  7:04                             ` David Maus
2010-04-02 23:01                               ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-03  9:19                                 ` David Maus
2010-04-04 17:52                                   ` Eric Schulte [this message]
2010-04-01  7:53                           ` Vagn Johansen
2010-04-02  6:34                             ` David Maus
2010-04-02 14:57                               ` Dan Davison
2010-04-02 17:25                                 ` David Maus
2010-04-02 21:10                                   ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-03  9:00                                     ` David Maus
2010-04-03 12:03                                       ` David Maus
2010-04-04  2:41                                         ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-04 10:00                                           ` David Maus

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