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To: Tom Gillespie , Bastien , emacs-orgmode Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42b; envelope-from=tgbugs@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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I was writing in the context of how to specify the current behavior formally. As you point out they absolutely are possible. More replies in line. Best, Tom > This is inaccurate. > > The following is a perfectly valid list. > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > 1. foo > > #+begin_src emacs-lisp > (+ 1 1) > #+end_src > > 2. bar > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Yes. My question is about how to deal with cases like --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- 1. foo #+begin_src emacs-lisp (+ 1 1) #+end_src 2. bar --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > Source blocks for languages that have significant whitespace should use > the -i flag. My known issues with switches aside, the misaligned cases are the ones that I worry about, and I don't think being able to flag a block as being indentation sensitive helps resolve the potential ambiguity there. > What makes you think this is not the case? Sorry, my wording is unclear here. I was not talking about the current implementation which can and does do this, but instead about how to formally specify what should be done in such cases.