On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: > John Hendy writes: > > [...] > >> Sort of. Screenshots attached: >> - as-is.png is the text from my initial email just yanked into Emacs >> >> - uneven-start.png is the result of `M-x fill-paragraph` on that text >> >> - even-start.png is the result of `M-x fill-paragraph` on the text if >> I make sure the start of every line is justified with two spaces, as >> it would if I'd been writing that full line directly in an Org list >> item and then deleted/shortened some of the lines. >> >> - default.org is me taking the original yanked text and arranging it >> all on one line, then pressing space at the end of the line. >> >> So... if the start of the lines in an item aren't even, you get an >> uneven fill, > > Yes, this is as expected, based on fill-paragraph's algorithm for what > to fill and how to define the fill prefix. > >> and in both cases, the right ragged edge is more ragged >> than Org would have done on it's own. > > Yes, this is true. Happens to me as well. The filling is different > when using auto-fill and writing as compared with fill-paragraph > afterwards. I have never used fill-region so cannot compare. > If I select/mark a paragraph, `M-x fill-region` produces paragraphs that are identical to typing them in Org and letting the line run past my setting for the fill-column width. So fill-region works identically to Org; fill-paragraph does not. >> I didn't know about this >> function and have just always used fill-region (not sure why!), so >> thanks for suggesting it, as it's definitely getting things close. > > One step at a time... ;-) Filling appears to be a somewhat stochastic > process although I'm sure it isn't! See attached before and after comparing regular paragraph behavior for Org's default behavior if you fill past the fill-column setting, M-x fill-region, and M-x fill-paragraph. Perhaps not the most exhaustive test, but shows that for paragraphs, the behavior of all three is the same. I did the same for lists, but I suppose we already knew from my previous email that Org and fill-paragraph don't agree. > > Having said this, I have now moved completely to org-indent with > visual-line-mode and I no longer need to fill anything, when in org mode > as opposed to message mode like this email... Hmm. I'll have to look into that! John > > -- > : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.1.1-7-gaecdf5 >