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From: John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com>
To: Ken Okada <keno.ss57@gmail.com>
Cc: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>, emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 00:29:39 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+M2ft83qynSJdT6S9S1ZUGjVPi_ANAT9A9+8nm=sVj5KSJdVA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ppnalz0o.wl%keno.ss57@gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Ken Okada <keno.ss57@gmail.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> Thanks for advising.
>
> On Org 7.8.11, placement=[l] and placement={l} parameter does not make
> sense for tables as I tried.
>
> I tried to install the current version. (There was a compile error
> arising from the fact that BSD make is not GNU make, but it's no matter.)
> A simple example for :center nil works well. For main org file I have to
> do more work... not about centering.

If you're still running into the make issue, this is how I manage
Org-git on Windows since I don't want to futz with cygwin or other
stuff:
- http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#compiling-org-without-make

> However there seems not to be a parameter for flush right. At present
> this is not a serious problem because :center nil works well, so we can
> control directory with #+LATEX: \begin ... and \end . But it's tiresome.

I was hunting around for the LaTeX parameter directly to specify the
table alignment and honestly wasn't finding anything specifically
related to tabular. My best hunting suggests that you need to put the
table inside of some sort of float environment and then specify the
placement that way, but I'm not sure if this plays nicely with any of
Org's built in table environments or not.

For example, I see there's a way to specify right alignment when
trying to wrap text around a figure:
- http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Floats,_Figures_and_Captions#Wrapping_text_around_figures

I was able to do this successfully with tabular instead of the example
they showed, but if you have no text to wrap, the table will just be
left-aligned.

\begin{wrapfigure}{r}{0.5\textwidth}
\begin{tabular}{lll}
a & b & c \\
\hline
word & word & word \\
word & word & word \\
\end{tabular}
\end{wrapfigure}

I also don't know how to next multiple environments with Org's
#+attr_latex options. I was able to place it inside wrap figure like
so:

#+attr_latex: :environment wrapfigure
| a    | b    | c    |
|------+------+------|
| word | word | word |
| word | word | word |

But one still needs a \begin/end{tabular} wrapped around the table. I
tried the obvious =:environment wrapfigure tabular=, but this creates
the literal set of words inside \begin{} vs. separate environments.

That's the best I can do for now...


Good luck!
John

>
> I also feel something about the difference between the way to designate
> centering and flush left/right. For HTML export we use :align parameter;
> for LaTeX, :center parameter, which only allows us to control centering
> or not. :align parameter is used for alignment of contents of table.
> I'm confused. I guess there's a problem about backward compatibility or
> something.
>
> As you wrote there's a way to change default behaviour, but I feel
> centering is confortable in the most typesetting *with Org*.
> I think such searching result is due to the default behaviour of LaTeX.
> File local option switching the behaviour would be useful, I think.
>
> Best regards,
> Ken Okada
>
>
> At Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:22:38 -0600,
> John Hendy wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Ken,
>> >
>> > Ken Okada <keno.ss57@gmail.com> writes:
>> >
>> > > I have a question. By default tables are centered in LaTeX export.
>> > > Sometimes I prefere to make it flush left or right. I thought this was
>> > > done with, for example,
>> > >
>> > > #+ATTR_LATEX: :center nil
>> > > | a | b |
>> > > | 1 | 2 |
>> >
>> > The use of the :center parameter suggests you consulted a recent
>> > version of the documentation, for Org >=8.0.
>> >
>> > This is how it works for Org 8.0 and above:
>> >
>> > #+ATTR_LATEX: :environment longtable :align l|lp{3cm}r|l
>> > | a | b | c |
>> > | 1 | 2 | 3 |
>> >
>> > If you can, please upgrade.  Otherwise, someone needs to check the
>> > documentation for Org 7.8.11...
>>
>> Bastien beat me to it. Yes, the example syntax is for Org > 8.0.
>> Here's a version of the manual for v7.9:
>> - http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/org.html#Tables-in-LaTeX-export
>>
>> I'm not sure what the proper argument is and can't test since I'm on
>> the current version of Org from git. You might take a look at the
>> placement= argument?
>>
>> I'm having a tough time finding info on LaTeX with what makes a table
>> left or right aligned (not the columns, but the table itself). Most of
>> the hits are on how to *center* the table, which seems to suggest they
>> will be left aligned by default.
>>
>> Sorry not to be of better help -- I think Bastien's suggestion to
>> upgrade to 8.0 is the right move. A lot of the mailing list has likely
>> made the move and thus it's hard to troubleshoot versions with the old
>> exporter syntax.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> John
>>
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> >
>> > --
>> >  Bastien
>> >

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-31  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-30  0:03 (no subject) Ken Okada
2014-01-30  0:15 ` Bastien
2014-01-30  0:22   ` John Hendy
2014-01-30  7:17     ` Ken Okada
2014-01-31  6:29       ` John Hendy [this message]
2014-01-31  7:11         ` Nick Dokos
2014-02-03 22:13           ` Marcin Borkowski
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2018-10-20  9:02 stardiviner
2018-10-15  8:04 Nik Clayton
2018-10-17 13:20 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-09-15 21:06 ` Matt Price
2018-05-03 13:44 Arne Babenhauserheide
2018-05-03 14:29 ` Bastien
2018-05-03 21:02   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2018-05-04  1:02     ` steen
2018-05-04  5:38   ` Michael Welle
2018-05-11 20:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-02 16:10 Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2016-11-01 16:10 John Kitchin
2016-09-19 16:38 John Brodie
2016-09-20 20:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-11-03 19:53 Fritz Kunze
2015-10-11 19:51 Shankar Rao
2015-09-04 14:51 Eduardo Mercovich
2015-09-04 15:25 ` thomas
2015-09-04 18:35   ` Eduardo Mercovich
2015-01-24 16:23 M.S.Khed Khed
2014-05-03  1:52 Ryan Moszynski
2014-05-03  3:01 ` William Henney
2014-05-03  3:22   ` William Henney
2013-11-06  6:13 Cecil Westerhof
2013-11-06  8:32 ` Bastien
2013-11-06  8:42 ` Bastien
     [not found]   ` <CAG-LmmDGaczy8pyeCTU6-YJ9oTBeEufqU6kC2PUb-U6ucexhZA@mail.gmail.com>
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2013-11-06 18:38         ` Cecil Westerhof
2013-10-11  7:14 "Recent items" Agenda view? Martin Beck
2013-10-11 20:35 ` Samuel Wales
2013-10-14  8:46   ` (no subject) Martin Beck
2013-03-07 20:37 [RFC] Org syntax (draft) Nicolas Goaziou
2013-03-08 10:39 ` was: " Andreas Röhler
2013-03-08 10:46   ` (no subject) Bastien
2013-03-08 10:59     ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-08 11:05       ` Bastien
2013-03-08 11:18         ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-08 11:23           ` Bastien
2013-03-08 13:00             ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-08 13:12               ` Bastien
2013-03-08 15:22                 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-08 15:40                   ` Bastien
2013-03-08 20:39                     ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-08 21:19                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-03-08 21:57                         ` Suvayu Ali
2013-03-09 14:09                       ` Bastien
2013-03-10 22:40                         ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-03  0:55 Vikas Rawal
2013-01-29  9:43 Martin Beck
2013-01-30 12:12 ` Bernt Hansen
2013-01-24 12:11 Herbert Sitz
2013-01-15 19:26 Rick Frankel
2012-11-11 15:36 Fabrice Popineau
2012-11-11 23:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-11-12  7:40   ` Fabrice Popineau
2012-11-07 18:50 Kevin Buchs
2012-09-29  7:30 Neuwirth Erich
2012-09-29  7:39 ` Bastien
2012-09-29  8:09   ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-29  9:12     ` Bastien
2012-09-29  9:52 ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-24 16:21 Feiming Chen
2012-05-22  3:32 "Smart" quotes Mark E. Shoulson
2012-05-23 22:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-05-24  3:05   ` Mark E. Shoulson
2012-05-25 17:14     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-05-25 22:51       ` Mark E. Shoulson
2012-05-26  6:48         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-05-29  1:30           ` Mark E. Shoulson
2012-05-29 17:57             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-05-30  0:51               ` Mark E. Shoulson
2012-05-31  1:50                 ` (no subject) Mark Shoulson
2012-05-31 13:38                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-05-11 20:56 Rick Frankel
2012-05-11 20:38 ` Eric Schulte
2012-05-11 22:43   ` Bernt Hansen
2012-05-17  6:23   ` Bastien
2012-01-23 12:00 Tom Regner
2012-01-23 16:34 ` Tom Regner
2012-01-23 20:31 ` Eric Schulte
2012-01-24  1:55   ` Tom Regner
2012-01-05 17:36 Ab Cd
2011-08-06  1:19 Vikas Rawal
2011-02-21 22:13 Vincent-Xavier JUMEL
2011-02-23 19:52 ` Bernt Hansen
2011-02-23 19:54 ` Bernt Hansen
2011-04-09  9:41   ` Vincent-Xavier JUMEL
2010-06-29 17:50 amscopub-mail
2009-09-18 12:35 Robin Green
2009-02-17 18:57 Matthew Lundin
2009-02-17 20:26 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-28 11:20 Dimitris Kapetanakis
2008-01-29  9:39 ` Bastien Guerry
2007-11-13 20:35 François Puitg
2007-10-20 10:33 Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
2007-10-21 22:20 ` Bastien
2006-05-25 10:43 Thomas Baumann
2006-05-25 12:49 ` Carsten Dominik

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