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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1622309190; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Hf66pZHGc8wtYeRD8bhwDwf1xqHTmXg/Ftj/b4cu8Sc=; b=bIEyBFtmEbAmy7fQV5k5KHqVwvRPzYVhZD7yoZIdM437C+5r0JIm6qcjn0y7bXPAWRqZrp onf5y4Bu2wL5ssXw0Cl+Lcxb5Z3fdFOQxeEC9NMif0dlb0pcGM4bed0van2o/jxiFcaoh4 X59eq5tQdfS0/wPAh3zdYvUjgQsN5ENKGV4KUQG1VI7tda8TyrF/1M7bkwyzBHrSeo4rqj akGLMLTsDrxZ8SWoHiNZEqfzAjLc/SWS9OweoQXopSvA0LuowI47eCKVtkCSc+ZiNL0jK6 8hJv8IDdGBFwCIpwIwJfXr5eu/fL2r8QU6mNZPqyI78OjiHaabwo0NR2kBcc4w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1622309190; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=OEujOcjkmx1hk8x2v3DSObiCAgMU8F2LoBEe4L2KmS8Q0a+ZogBuEHE3qlSe6oeZM6JqVv gDf77bbm1Oh2vknr+J8J/zDg13/mVm4rAvJFzbCB2dI5lViqgpFBB83gu/VT87wSZwDKjr irNByw/rLN8ajT0HSeRJwD1zxzPQ+k9b5VRbOWgnzDKf15M/0YDYaeF8xTg3JObTzksRWq xwENVnQ0q/chnvPW177+tH8YA7Biu2HBQcDvro6Scnc/AI6Pe4bjgvHEtpCR4TTfnC5g/P qfIDPdSIABQgT2WggAygRxey3uRbxnllHbl8BUgEY9CtNg685rByWNCRUo86rA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=geMGIIUd; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.12 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=geMGIIUd; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B9B291CED9 X-Spam-Score: -3.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 7zTtwXYidBzK On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 12:34 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > > > Right now, citeproc-el, and hence also oc-csl, only supports the "bare" variant. > > > > Would it be feasible, and make sense, to fall back all "bare" variants > > to "bare" for now? > > > > So this: > > > > [cite//bare-caps:@latexcompanion] > > > > ... would render as: > > > > Doe 2019 > > We dropped variant inheritance some time ago already, when the suggested > syntax was style/variant/subvariant... Now, "bare" and "bare-caps" are > totally different from Org Cite POV. I'd rather not re-introduce this. Oh wait, I just realized citeproc-el already has a parameter for "caps" (which I hadn't realized). - "bare" -> "suppress-affixes" parameter - "caps" -> "capitalize-first" Right? So that would allows support for: - "bare" - "caps" - "bare-caps" So if he adds an equivalent of the "full" parameter, that could extend the sub-styles support in oc-csl? > Maybe "bare" need to be promoted as a full-fledged style, so "bare/caps" > could fallback to "bare". I don't know. I thought of that too, but it won't work, because "bare" applies to multiple styles. Bruce