This is indeed useful, thanks.

I think this may be best done by some startup code, which when installing
org-plus-contrib with require-package, deletes any existing org package,
and makes this dummy org package.

Would it be useful if such code appeared within the org-plus-contrib
package itself, so we could have this sort of usage in our .emacs:

(require-package 'org-plus-contrib)
(org-plus-contrib-remove-and-stub-org-pkg)

I'm not particularly attached to the name, but you get the point.

What do you think?

cheers,
Simon

On 10 August 2017 at 07:37, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:

> In case it is useful, here is Achim's post:
>
> From: Achim Gratz
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: [O] Stable releases
> Flags: replied, seen, list
> Date: Sat Aug 22 07:44:14 2015
> Maildir: /TSDYE/INBOX
> List: emacs-orgmode.gnu.org
>
> Thomas S. Dye writes:
> > I do have a technical question that you or someone else on the list
> > might be able to answer for me.  When I downloaded the Babel languages
> > from melpa just now, the elpa version of Org mode was also downloaded
> > and installed, even though I didn't ask for it.  Why is this?
>
> Although you don't say which package you tried, I would guess that the
> "org" package is specified as a dependency, likely with some minimum
> version.
>
> > Can it be disabled? Must the elpa Org mode be installed and activated
> > in order for the Org mode packages to work?
>
> From the point of package manager anything installed from the outside
> doesn't exist.  You can fake that in various way, for instance by
> creating a package directory "org-21991231" and putting an org-pkg.el
> with
>
> (define-package "org" "21991231" "Fake Org package for dependency
> resolution" 'nil)
>
> in it.
>
>
> Regards,
> Achim.
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>
> Achim Gratz writes:
>
> > Adam Porter writes:
> >> I've had the same problem, I have to manually delete the extra org
> >> package now and then.  I wonder if a dummy package would prevent
> >> package.el from reinstalling it...
> >
> > Yes it does and I've provided instructions on how to do that quite some
> > time ago on this list.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Achim.
>
>
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