From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Johan Ekh Subject: Re: Slow usage of capture templates Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:20:17 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8737gyrg6s.fsf@gmail.com> <87a83iqx7d.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <878tj244si.fsf@alphapapa.net> <87zibhaabf.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1134e590ef71310556265a26" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59552) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1deeCy-0002tb-MO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 05:20:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1deeCx-0000ii-31 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 05:20:20 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::234]:36771) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1deeCw-0000iY-Qi for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 05:20:19 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-x234.google.com with SMTP id g131so60351590oic.3 for ; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 02:20:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: fabrice.popineau@centralesupelec.fr Cc: Adam Porter , Tim Cross , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --001a1134e590ef71310556265a26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks Fabrice! I will continue to evaluate the WSL as I now have it installed and it seems to work. I think my strategy will be to try both the native windows version and the Ubuntu version of my key applications and just see which one works best for me. I installed XMing for X server and it seems to work well. BR / Johan On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Fabrice Popineau < fabrice.popineau@supelec.fr> wrote: > > > 2017-08-03 0:12 GMT+02:00 Tim Cross : > >> Probably no real help, but win10 is (or soon will be) bundling in bash >> shell, which may address many of the reasons to use Cygwin. From posts >> I've seen on a number of lists, I would not be surprised to see cygwin >> slowly decline into obscurity. I see little interest in the emacs devel >> list for cygwin since the native windows version has matured (and it has >> been suggested, is the largest emacs user base). >> >> I am a Windows user (very long time) and Cygwin has never been an option > to me. > Native Emacs works pretty well under Windows. > There is only one drawback: it is slow (slower than linux) at running > external processes and some emacs packages do that pretty heavily > (ivy/counsel, flycheck). > I have seen reports of slower startup times with the native Windows emacs > than with Linux, however I have not > been able to reproduce them (for example using helm default config or > spacemacs config). > > Depending on wheter you use a 32 bits emacs or a 64 bits emacs, you may > want to add > 32 bits Gnu utilities (https://sourceforge.net/projects/ezwinports/files/) > or 64 bits Gnu utilities (http://www.msys2.org/, provides a much better > environment than Cygwin in my opinion) > > Or you may want to try the new WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux, as > described by Tim) > which provides a full Ubuntu distribution without the penalty for running > external processes, > and without the penalty of running a VM. > WSL is pretty impressive and emacs works pretty well once you get a good X > server (like MobaXTerm). > > Fabrice > --001a1134e590ef71310556265a26 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Fabrice!
I will continue to eval= uate the WSL as I now have it installed and it seems to work. I think my st= rategy will be to try both the native windows version and the Ubuntu versio= n of my key applications and just see which one works best for me. I instal= led XMing for X server and it seems to work well.

BR / Johan

On Mon, A= ug 7, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@supel= ec.fr> wrote:


2017-08-03 0:12 GMT+02:00 Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>:
Probabl= y no real help, but win10 is (or soon will be) bundling in bash
shell, which may address many of the reasons to use Cygwin. From posts
I've seen on a number of lists, I would not be surprised to see cygwin<= br> slowly decline into obscurity. I see little interest in the emacs devel
list for cygwin since the native windows version has matured (and it has been suggested, is the largest emacs user base).


or 64 bits Gnu utilities (http://www.msys2.org/, pro= vides a much better environment than Cygwin in my opinion)

Or you may want to try the new WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux, a= s described by Tim)=C2=A0
which provides a full Ubuntu distributi= on without the penalty for running external processes,=C2=A0
and = without the penalty of running a VM.
WSL is pretty impressive and= emacs works pretty well once you get a good X server (like MobaXTerm).

Fabric= e

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