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From: Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [POLL] Setting `org-adapt-indentation' to nil by default?
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 21:50:32 +0700
Message-ID: <s70vnp$s2g$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a6pcfdh2.fsf@bzg.fr>

Bastien, thank you for the fixes of electric-indent-mode, there is no 
feeling that it is necessary to choose between broken and inconvenient 
configuration options any more.

On 03/05/2021 15:06, Bastien wrote:
> 
> This might help: https://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#indentation
"What is the best setup for indenting?"

I think, the something like the following should be added to the answer.
It was not obvious for me at first. Gustavo explained it in 
https://orgmode.org/list/87blfxv966.fsf@gmail.com/

Do not try to avoid or ignore indentation of heading body or properties 
drawer determined by current org-adapt-indentation and 
electric-indent-mode by pressing C-j instead of RET (or vice versa). It 
is unsure way. When you refile heading or change its level (promote or 
demote it), you may find that despite your efforts, elements are 
indented accordingly to Org mode current settings instead of your visual 
preferences. It is better to customize org-adapt-indentation.

I would suggest to mention =#+STARTUP: indent= as well as a visual 
alternative to (org-adapt-indentation t) that actually cancels its effect.

Maybe it should be stressed in the ORG-NEWS file that previously there 
were suggestion to set electric-indent-local-mode to -1 for Org buffers. 
Now it is hopefully not necessary due to bug fixes and changed defaults.

Finally, a case that might be fixed.

- item 1
   + item 2
   +← cursor is here

In this case TAB allows to cycle through indentation variants and it is 
great. Unfortunately just after RET (there are only some spaces on the 
new line) TAB fixes indentation as continuation of previous item and 
does not allow to shift left before marker is added. It is confusing at 
first since e.g. python mode is more liberal.

Is there equivalent of TAB for indentation cycle when some item text is 
added since TAB is busy for switching of item visibility?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-06 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-02  6:09 Bastien
2021-05-02  7:13 ` Tim Cross
2021-05-02  8:06 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02  8:47   ` Tim Cross
2021-05-02 20:18     ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 22:25       ` Tim Cross
2021-05-03  7:41         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03 10:15         ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02  8:56   ` Bastien
2021-05-02  8:59     ` Bastien
2021-05-02 20:24       ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 20:21     ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 20:22     ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 10:07 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-05-02 15:01 ` Detlef Steuer
2021-05-02 15:44   ` Colin Baxter
2021-05-02 15:46 ` Amin Bandali
2021-05-02 18:11   ` Tom Gillespie
2021-05-02 18:19     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-02 18:48       ` Tom Gillespie
2021-05-02 19:20         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-03 10:11   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-02 18:31 ` Jim Porter
2021-05-02 20:44 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03  7:33   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03  8:06     ` Bastien
2021-05-03 12:53       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03 13:40         ` Bastien
2021-05-03 14:57           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-06 14:50       ` Maxim Nikulin [this message]
2021-05-15 20:51         ` Bastien
2021-05-19 17:02           ` [PATCH] etc/ORG-NEWS: Suggest against disabling `electric-indent-mode' Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-20 12:25             ` Bastien
2021-05-19 17:08           ` [PATCH] org-faq.org: Expand "What is the best setup for indenting?" Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-19 18:06             ` Greg Minshall
2021-05-20 15:57               ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-21  2:45                 ` Greg Minshall
2021-05-27 16:11                   ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-21  9:38                 ` Bastien
2021-05-20 12:28             ` Bastien
2021-05-19 17:08           ` [POLL] Setting `org-adapt-indentation' to nil by default? Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-02 21:07 ` Jack Kamm
2021-05-05  7:54 ` Bastien
2021-05-06 14:13   ` Bastien
2021-05-09 16:42     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-15 12:46       ` Bastien

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