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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.80 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=agspA+FI; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 07D3D94043A X-Spam-Score: -0.80 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 47KQlTzTiVlT > Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 3:35 AM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: "Ihor Radchenko" > Cc: daniela-spit@gmx.it, tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwrit= ing user options > > * Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-11 17:24]: > > > ... there is no active > > > hacking on org-agenda and adding new features. > > > > You are welcome to submit patches. > > > > I have experimental code to use pretty-symbols in agenda and align tag= s > > even when frame size changes [1]. However, last time I proposed this o= n > > mailing list, there was no interest... > > > > [1] https://orgmode.org/list/87r1v71aw0.fsf@localhost/ > > By the way I have completely switched all action management to my > database system with tabulated list mode. No more using Org for action > management, only for document, not even short notes. Access to notes > by relevance search by using PostgreSQL full text search is so much > more logical personally. Computer performs search but as database is > more compact it does not search over all files. Things are easily > reordered rather then refiled. Key bindings for majority of actions > are way shorter as tabulated list mode is not editing mode. > > - tasks can be assigned to one among 200,000+ people in the database, > and I need not take care how their names are written and if I will > lose a task because I made a type in writing their names. Person is > rather selected and computer thinks what is their unique ID, not > name. > > - listing tasks assigned to specific person or group of people is > quick and easy, related to person or group is quick or easy. > > - daily list of pending tasks can be sent by email automatically, list > of completed tasks can be sent. Task as such can be sent with one or > two keys pressed without me thinking as all related objects are > integrated (email address of assignee is already known). > > - I need not keep one list of assignees in one file, other list in > other file, etc. I can list all asignees straight with one key or > see actions assigned to them. > > - and I do not write subordinate tasks as TODO any more, that makes no > sense. There is one senior section on what subject, project or > objective has to be fullfiled and those subordinate tasks which are > not marked with TODO repetitevely can be marked as redundant or > superfluous, purposeless when senior objective have been > completed. This means they are not done as there is no need to get > something done if objective have been fullfiled. Org mode have > imposed reverse on users where for example a list of items is only > then completed as DONE when subordinate tasks have been completed as > DONE, which makes users lie to themselves as they will then > "complete" the task which is not complete because it is purposeless > only to complete the senior task as DONE. > > And I think it is possible for anybody regardless of programming skill > level to make one's own system of management of tasks within less than > a week that will get more aligned to personal individualized way of > handling tasks, then trying to accommodate personal needs to software > that may have gone one completly wrong direction. If I said that I would be barraged by accusations of rudeness! :) > Software is there to help the human, not human to help the software. > >