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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Tom Gillespie , Org-Mode mailing list Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.00 X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; none X-TUID: VE6i9Jl8QcFs > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:02 PM > From: "Kyle Meyer" > To: daniela-spit@gmx.it > Cc: "Tom Gillespie" , "Org-Mode mailing list" > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwrit= ing user options > > daniela-spit@gmx.it writes: > > >> From: "Tom Gillespie" > [...] > >> If you have that then your list will be retained. However Emacs will > >> probably continue to ask you to remove the missing file until some > >> file exists at that path. Not sure about the org agenda behavior for > >> missing files since I populate org-agenda-files by scanning folders > >> for existing org files and then having a blacklist to exclude files I > >> do not want. > > > > Yes it gives you hell in its demand to delete or abort, rather than > > ignoring the file. > > > > That's why I called the problem a bug. If you don't find the file, ig= nore it. > > If you want non-existing/unreadable files to be skipped, you can > configure org-agenda-skip-unavailable-files to a non-nil value. > > That option unfortunately isn't mentioned in the manual or the docstring > of the org-agenda-files option. If anyone is interested, a patch > improving the documentation would of course be appreciated. Yes, there are problems with the documentation. I noticed recently that some guy criticised the manual, and so many got super defensive. You shou= ld give him a medal for telling you how things are. Thanks for mentioning it. If it was written up, I would not have bothered anyone who typically flame up by work. We all got work to do, not only people at Gnu. After all, it is the FSF who continually campaigns in favour of free software and to use Gnu Tools. Bad responses to those asking for help - on a mailing list that emacs admin made - ends up destroying their good work. I only say this because I want you to succeed. Thanks again