From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ANN] New Org duration library
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:51:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d1ebgyy1.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d1ebxv29.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:22:54 +0100")
Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes:
> Thanks, but will there be some helper function to migrate the old
> customizations? I didn't even remember that I had customized this
> variable until I couldn't clock in or out anymore (I remember now that I
> customized it so it would record durations in hours, not days/hours).
A helper function is not really possible since there is no 1 to
1 equivalence between the two systems. They share the same default
value, tho.
You can post your old customization here, I try to help you convert it
to the new format, if possible at all.
> I'd first need to understand what the options there really mean. It
> seems that the variable can be set to just a symbol or (maybe) a string
> or a list of conses.
Strings are not allowed. It is either a symbol (h:mm:ss or h:mm) or
a list of conses.
> The conses form refer to org-duration-units, but there the units are
> all defined as strings and no mention of the symbol special that
> apparently is another possibility.
The mention of the symbol special is there:
Eventually, the list can contain an entry indicating special
formatting needs. It can follow one of the three following
patterns:
(special . h:mm)
(special . h:mm:ss)
(special . PRECISION)
When any of the first two is present, a duration is expressed in
mixed mode, where the hours and minutes of the duration are
expressed as a \"H:MM:SS\" or \"H:MM\" string while still using
other units defined.
> I don't really see why you'd mix symbols and strings in the same
> position.
Probably because I couldn't find a better idea to cover all cases.
> I have no idea what "mixed mode" is supposed to be
The definition of "mixed mode" is in the docstring:
When any of the first two is present, a duration is expressed in
mixed mode, where the hours and minutes of the duration are
expressed as a \"H:MM:SS\" or \"H:MM\" string while still using
other units defined.
There is even an example in the docstring:
The following format
((\"d\" . nil) (special . h:mm))
means that any duration longer than a day is expressed with both
a \"d\" unit and a \"H:MM\" part, whereas a duration shorter than
a day is expressed only as a \"H:MM\" string.
Basically,
1d 8:30
is mixed mode.
> and what happens if I specify both (special . h:mm) and ("h" . nil)
> for instance. Is the order of these important?
Specifying both (special . h:mm) and ("h" . nil) is nonsensical, since
you request something like "0:30" in the first case, and "0h" in the
second one.
In this case, I think ("h" . nil) is going to be ignored since (special
. h:mm) already takes care of hours an minutes.
> I've set it to the symbol h:mm (shown as H:MM in customize) via the
> value menu in customize. I might read the documentation incorrectly,
> but to me it seems to say it should be the string "h:mm" instead.
The first paragraph of the docstring is
The value can be set to, respectively, `h:mm:ss' or `h:mm', which
means a duration is expressed as, respectively, a \"H:MM:SS\" or
\"H:MM\" string.
`...' implies a symbol, so `h:mm' is definitely a correct value.
> I'm left to wonder if (h:mm) is the same or different from ((special .
> h.mm)).
There is no such thing as (h:mm). However, 'h:mm is morally equivalent
to ((special . h:mm)).
HTH,
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-21 18:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-13 14:10 [ANN] New Org duration library Nicolas Goaziou
2017-02-14 8:17 ` Detlef Steuer
2017-02-14 9:01 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-02-14 9:10 ` Detlef Steuer
2017-03-03 2:31 ` David Mann
2017-03-03 2:46 ` David Mann
2017-03-03 11:24 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-02-21 17:24 ` Achim Gratz
2017-02-21 17:53 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-02-21 18:22 ` Achim Gratz
2017-02-21 18:51 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2017-02-21 19:47 ` Achim Gratz
2017-02-22 10:56 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-02-22 11:50 ` Malcolm Purvis
2017-03-17 8:00 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-02-22 15:33 ` Aaron Ecay
2017-02-22 19:01 ` Nicolas Goaziou
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