org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

[John Magolske]

Can org-vcard convert .vcf files into .org files? I have a .vcf file,
a list of contacts generated from an android phone, which I'd like to
edit, through a process like:

    contacts.vcf -> contacts.org

then after editing that contacts.org file do:

    contacts.org -> contacts2.vcf

so that contacts2.vcf can be re-imported to the phone.

I tried org-vcard-import along with:

    Source: file
    Destination: buffer 
    Filename? /tmp/Contacts.vcf

which tells me:

    Imported contacts data to buffer ’*org-vcard-import*’

but that buffer is empty. Same when I select as Destination "file",
it produces an empty file.

I see org-vcard is "... a package for exporting and importing vCards
from within GNU Emacs' Org mode." So I'm thinking it should be
possible to do something like this, but I can't seem to get it
working.

TIA for any clarification,

John

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Re: org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

[Eric S Fraga]

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On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 at 06:49, John Magolske wrote:
> Can org-vcard convert .vcf files into .org files? I have a .vcf file,
> a list of contacts generated from an android phone, which I'd like to
> edit, through a process like:

[...]

> but that buffer is empty. Same when I select as Destination "file",
> it produces an empty file.

I've just tried this and it worked for me (give or take).  Both ways.

What versions of org, emacs and org-vcard?  I downloaded the latest
version of the latter from https://github.com/flexibeast/org-vcard

By the way, there is also a bbdb-vcard package that may be of use to you.

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: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 26.0.50.1, Org release_9.0.4-242-g2c27b8

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Re: org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

[Saša Janiška]

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Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> By the way, there is also a bbdb-vcard package that may be of use to you.

I’ve migrated back to Emacs/Gnus/orgmode and wonder if there is
something to sync contacts with the CardDav server(s)?

Atm I use DAVDroid on the phone along with Baikal server and
khard/vdrisyncer on my desktop so bbdb-vcard is helpful, but,
unfortunately, I keep two address books (*.vcf files) and BBDB still
cannot handle more than one BBDB file…the only other option seems to be
ASynK which does not look very popular…


Sincerely,
Gour

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realization. Such a person is situated in transcendence and is self-controlled.
He sees everything — whether it be pebbles, stones or gold — as the same.

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Re: org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Saša Janiška <gour@atmarama.com> writes:

> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> By the way, there is also a bbdb-vcard package that may be of use to you.
>
> I’ve migrated back to Emacs/Gnus/orgmode and wonder if there is
> something to sync contacts with the CardDav server(s)?
>
> Atm I use DAVDroid on the phone along with Baikal server and
> khard/vdrisyncer on my desktop so bbdb-vcard is helpful, but,
> unfortunately, I keep two address books (*.vcf files) and BBDB still
> cannot handle more than one BBDB file…the only other option seems to be
> ASynK which does not look very popular…

This is on the roadmap for EBDB[1]. It already supports multiple
databases, and can export to vcard. I'm working on vcard import now, and
when that's done it will be a native Vcard database. Then CardDAV. I
also use DAVDroid and really want this feature myself, though I can't
promise any kind of timeline!

Eric

[1]: https://github.com/girzel/ebdb

Re: org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

[Saša Janiška]

Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> This is on the roadmap for EBDB[1]. i

It’s already starred here. ;)

> It already supports multiple databases, and can export to vcard. I'm
> working on vcard import now, and when that's done it will be a native
> Vcard database.

Wonderful…thanks a lot for your work on it!!

> Then CardDAV. I also use DAVDroid and really want this feature myself,
> though I can't promise any kind of timeline!

I’m so excited about the prospect of EBDB, that it might push me in the
direction to finally learn Elisp. :-)


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
Bewildered by the modes of material nature, the ignorant fully
engage themselves in material activities and become attached. But
the wise should not unsettle them, although these duties are inferior
due to the performers' lack of knowledge.

Re: org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Saša Janiška <gour@atmarama.com> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> This is on the roadmap for EBDB[1]. i
>
> It’s already starred here. ;)
>
>> It already supports multiple databases, and can export to vcard. I'm
>> working on vcard import now, and when that's done it will be a native
>> Vcard database.
>
> Wonderful…thanks a lot for your work on it!!
>
>> Then CardDAV. I also use DAVDroid and really want this feature myself,
>> though I can't promise any kind of timeline!
>
> I’m so excited about the prospect of EBDB, that it might push me in the
> direction to finally learn Elisp. :-)

Glad to know you're enthusiastic, and patches are always welcome!

I do expect the DAV server stuff to take me a while, though. I've heard
the protocol is a bear, and I don't have much experiences with XML or
network programming. I expect to crib a lot of code out of org-caldave
:)

Eric

Re: org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

[Saša Janiška]

Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> Glad to know you're enthusiastic, and patches are always welcome!

What can you recommend for learning Elisp which might be also useful for
špssobče contributibution to EBDB?

> I do expect the DAV server stuff to take me a while, though. I've heard
> the protocol is a bear, and I don't have much experiences with XML or
> network programming. I expect to crib a lot of code out of org-caldave
> :)

org-caldav is nice, but not useful any longer for me due to
https://github.com/dengste/org-caldav/issues/51 issue. :-(


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
For him who has conquered the mind, the mind is the best of
friends; but for one who has failed to do so, his mind will
remain the greatest enemy.

Re: org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Saša Janiška <gour@atmarama.com> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> Glad to know you're enthusiastic, and patches are always welcome!
>
> What can you recommend for learning Elisp which might be also useful for
> špssobče contributibution to EBDB?

What would be great is having more country-specific parsing and display
functions. EBDB can display phone numbers, etc, differently depending on
the country code. You can look at ebdb-i18n, and also ebdb-chn, which is
the only country-specific library I've written, which is why I'm hoping
people will pitch in here :) Basically look at your contacts and see if
any them have field data that should be read or displayed in
country-specific ways, and see if you can tackle that.

You'll need a passing familiarity with generic functions, but that part
should mostly be copy-and-paste. The work would be with regular
expressions, string formatting, that sort of thing, which is good
practice!

>> I do expect the DAV server stuff to take me a while, though. I've heard
>> the protocol is a bear, and I don't have much experiences with XML or
>> network programming. I expect to crib a lot of code out of org-caldave
>> :)
>
> org-caldav is nice, but not useful any longer for me due to
> https://github.com/dengste/org-caldav/issues/51 issue. :-(

Oh, I've never hit that bug. That's too bad...

Eric

Re: org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

[Rasmus]

Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> Saša Janiška <gour@atmarama.com> writes:
>
>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>
>>> Glad to know you're enthusiastic, and patches are always welcome!
>>
>> What can you recommend for learning Elisp which might be also useful for
>> špssobče contributibution to EBDB?
>
> What would be great is having more country-specific parsing and display
> functions. EBDB can display phone numbers, etc, differently depending on
> the country code. You can look at ebdb-i18n, and also ebdb-chn, which is
> the only country-specific library I've written, which is why I'm hoping
> people will pitch in here :) Basically look at your contacts and see if
> any them have field data that should be read or displayed in
> country-specific ways, and see if you can tackle that.

Perhaps the data from libphonenumber can be used.

    https://github.com/googlei18n/libphonenumber

Rasmus

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Re: org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> Saša Janiška <gour@atmarama.com> writes:
>>
>>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Glad to know you're enthusiastic, and patches are always welcome!
>>>
>>> What can you recommend for learning Elisp which might be also useful for
>>> špssobče contributibution to EBDB?
>>
>> What would be great is having more country-specific parsing and display
>> functions. EBDB can display phone numbers, etc, differently depending on
>> the country code. You can look at ebdb-i18n, and also ebdb-chn, which is
>> the only country-specific library I've written, which is why I'm hoping
>> people will pitch in here :) Basically look at your contacts and see if
>> any them have field data that should be read or displayed in
>> country-specific ways, and see if you can tackle that.
>
> Perhaps the data from libphonenumber can be used.
>
>     https://github.com/googlei18n/libphonenumber

That's handy, thanks! And turns out I already had it installed.

Re: org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Saša Janiška <gour@atmarama.com> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

[...]

> org-caldav is nice, but not useful any longer for me due to
> https://github.com/dengste/org-caldav/issues/51 issue. :-(

Also, it looks like there are many forks of this repository, some of
which presumably address that issue -- has anyone tried any of the forks
recently?

E

Re: org-vcard -- possible to convert .vcf files to .org ?

[Saša Janiška]

Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> Also, it looks like there are many forks of this repository, some of
> which presumably address that issue -- has anyone tried any of the forks
> recently?

I was looking at them, but do not see any repo which would deal with
that issue…


Sincerely,
Gour

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The senses are so strong and impetuous, O Arjuna,
that they forcibly carry away the mind even of a man
of discrimination who is endeavoring to control them.