From: Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: comma as decimal point: bug? Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:17:46 +0200 Message-ID: <2012-08-27T18-12-30@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> (raw) In-Reply-To: <26130.1346083763@alphaville> * Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote: > Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> wrote: > >> Although I totally understand that numbers with commas should be >> made possible (I am a German speaking guy) I guess there will be >> even more issues in the future as long as cosmetics and >> functionality is not aligned. > > Agreed, but IIUC the main problem is that org depends on calc for > the calculations and calc is firmly in the "decimal point MUST be > a period" camp. Although I do not have much clue about «calc» I already assumed this is the case. > So the cosmetics/functionality alignment would involve surgery on > calc, something that nobody should undertake lightly - if at all > :-). Totally agree. The point is: new users and users that does not start reading documentation before usage will not know this. And all I want to mention is that although I myself (now) understand the reasons, I also understand that (new) users will keep on misunderstand this issue until the cosmetics is aligned with the functionality of »calc«. This results in lot of traffic on this list with bug-reports on this. To avoid this, normal users should not get the alignment per default without having to read the explanation of the whole story. This is a trade-off. -- Karl Voit
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-27 16:18 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 149+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2011-06-24 14:32 org-time-stamp loses repeater interval Karl Voit 2011-06-24 16:08 ` Bernt Hansen [not found] ` <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> 2011-06-24 16:01 ` Nick Dokos 2011-06-24 17:40 ` Michael Brand 2011-06-24 18:00 ` Nick Dokos 2011-06-26 11:30 ` Bug: " Karl Voit 2011-06-27 16:23 ` Bastien 2011-06-28 13:40 ` Karl Voit 2011-06-28 14:28 ` Bastien 2011-06-28 15:04 ` Nick Dokos 2011-06-28 15:13 ` Karl Voit 2011-06-28 15:33 ` Nick Dokos 2011-06-28 16:03 ` Karl Voit 2011-06-28 15:48 ` Bastien 2011-06-28 16:05 ` Karl Voit 2011-06-28 17:27 ` Bastien 2011-06-28 18:43 ` Karl Voit 2011-06-28 23:02 ` Bastien 2011-06-28 23:10 ` Nick Dokos 2011-06-28 23:58 ` Bastien 2011-06-29 1:44 ` Nick Dokos 2011-06-29 7:28 ` Sebastien Vauban 2011-06-29 9:30 ` Bastien 2011-06-29 14:34 ` Nick Dokos 2011-07-02 13:29 ` Bastien 2011-06-29 12:47 ` Karl Voit 2011-07-02 13:26 ` Bastien 2011-07-02 13:26 ` Bastien 2011-09-30 15:31 ` How to debug "Specified time is not representable" Nick Dokos 2011-10-18 17:26 ` Recurring events with exceptions Nick Dokos 2011-10-18 20:38 ` Karl Voit 2012-03-16 17:52 ` [bug] org-agenda-write does not handle date stamps without day of week Nick Dokos 2012-03-16 18:53 ` Karl Voit 2012-03-17 6:45 ` Nick Dokos 2012-03-19 9:12 ` Carsten Dominik 2012-03-20 5:54 ` Carsten Dominik 2012-03-20 12:26 ` Karl Voit 2012-03-20 13:47 ` Carsten Dominik 2012-04-10 17:38 ` Bastien 2012-04-10 17:44 ` Nick Dokos 2012-04-10 18:03 ` Bastien 2012-03-20 13:39 ` Nick Dokos 2012-03-21 16:32 ` Karl Voit 2012-03-21 16:57 ` Carsten Dominik 2012-03-26 16:10 ` Plotting (with gnuplot) using dates timestamps Nick Dokos 2012-08-13 22:27 ` table: referencing row of other table Nick Dokos 2012-08-13 22:44 ` Karl Voit 2012-08-19 12:32 ` What HW/SW issues influence org/Emacs performance? Nick Dokos 2012-08-19 13:04 ` Karl Voit 2012-08-20 17:23 ` Replacement for org-make-link Nick Dokos 2012-08-20 17:54 ` Bastien 2012-08-20 19:29 ` Karl Voit 2012-08-27 16:09 ` comma as decimal point: bug? Nick Dokos 2012-08-27 16:17 ` Karl Voit [this message] 2013-01-18 14:07 ` Wish: switch active time-stamps to inactive when CANCELED Nick Dokos 2013-01-18 21:24 ` Karl Voit 2013-01-18 21:59 ` Nick Dokos 2013-01-20 16:05 ` Karl Voit 2013-01-20 18:16 ` Viktor Rosenfeld 2013-01-21 10:18 ` Memnon Anon 2013-01-21 11:39 ` OT: Learning ELISP (was: Wish: switch active time-stamps to inactive when CANCELED) Karl Voit 2013-01-21 21:56 ` OT: Learning ELISP Jonathan Arkell 2013-01-23 14:40 ` Using Org/babel for Emacs config files (was: OT: Learning ELISP) Karl Voit 2013-01-23 15:52 ` Using Org/babel for Emacs config files David Bjergaard 2013-01-23 22:06 ` Using Org/babel for Emacs config files (was: OT: Learning ELISP) Darlan Cavalcante Moreira 2013-01-23 22:32 ` Kyle Machulis 2013-01-24 13:27 ` [OT] open url in emacs was: Re: Using Org/babel for Emacs config files Andreas Leha 2013-01-24 13:29 ` Bastien 2013-01-24 14:13 ` Andreas Leha 2013-01-24 15:19 ` Bastien 2013-01-24 19:48 ` Andreas Leha 2013-01-25 4:48 ` Jambunathan K 2013-01-26 8:34 ` Andreas Leha 2013-01-26 13:05 ` Jambunathan K 2013-01-28 9:41 ` Andreas Leha 2013-01-24 15:18 ` Daimrod 2013-01-24 1:04 ` Thorsten Jolitz 2013-01-24 1:33 ` Thomas S. Dye 2013-01-24 8:42 ` Thorsten Jolitz 2013-01-24 11:36 ` full outline functionality in .el files: how? (was: Re: Using Org/babel for Emacs config files) Gregor Zattler 2013-01-24 12:48 ` full outline functionality in .el files: how? Bastien 2013-01-24 13:40 ` Thorsten Jolitz 2013-01-24 13:46 ` Bastien 2013-01-24 14:17 ` Thorsten Jolitz 2013-01-24 15:57 ` Bastien 2013-01-24 13:36 ` Thorsten Jolitz 2013-01-25 18:08 ` Memnon Anon 2011-09-30 14:32 How to debug "Specified time is not representable" Karl Voit 2011-09-30 14:52 ` Jambunathan K 2011-10-03 11:50 ` Karl Voit 2011-10-04 7:40 ` Jambunathan K 2011-10-04 11:42 ` Karl Voit 2011-10-04 12:13 ` Carsten Dominik 2011-10-04 11:41 ` Carsten Dominik 2011-10-04 11:47 ` Karl Voit 2011-10-18 16:52 Recurring events with exceptions Karl Voit 2011-10-18 17:04 ` Brian Wightman 2011-10-18 17:35 ` Karl Voit 2011-10-18 18:15 ` Skip Collins 2011-10-18 18:46 ` Tassilo Horn 2011-10-18 19:57 ` Eric S Fraga 2011-10-19 0:34 ` Skip Collins 2011-10-19 10:02 ` Eric S Fraga 2011-10-21 21:48 ` Skip Collins 2011-10-22 8:38 ` Sync with Outlook/Exchange (was: Recurring events with exceptions) Karl Voit 2011-10-24 7:13 ` Recurring events with exceptions Eric S Fraga 2012-03-05 14:44 [bug] org-agenda-write does not handle date stamps without day of week Karl Voit 2012-03-16 16:14 ` Karl Voit 2012-03-17 14:04 ` Simon Thum 2012-03-19 9:13 ` Carsten Dominik 2012-03-26 13:37 Plotting (with gnuplot) using dates timestamps Alan Schmitt 2012-03-26 14:00 ` Allen S. Rout 2012-03-26 14:06 ` Michael Brand 2012-03-26 14:07 ` Steven Buczkowski [not found] ` <steven.buczkowski@gmail.com> 2012-03-26 14:37 ` Nick Dokos 2012-03-26 14:59 ` Alan Schmitt 2012-03-26 15:48 ` Karl Voit 2012-03-26 17:02 ` Alan Schmitt 2012-03-26 17:06 ` Karl Voit 2012-03-26 17:11 ` Ian Barton 2012-03-27 7:59 ` Karl Voit 2012-03-30 1:09 ` Mueen Nawaz 2012-08-13 21:50 table: referencing row of other table Karl Voit 2012-08-19 10:56 What HW/SW issues influence org/Emacs performance? Karl Voit 2012-08-19 11:23 ` Achim Gratz 2012-08-19 16:45 ` Luis Anaya 2012-08-20 17:03 Replacement for org-make-link Karl Voit 2012-08-26 13:54 comma as decimal point: bug? Rainer Thiel 2012-08-26 20:57 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2012-08-26 21:05 ` Bastien 2012-08-26 21:08 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2012-08-27 16:19 ` Bastien 2012-08-27 15:44 ` Karl Voit 2012-08-26 20:59 ` Bastien 2012-08-27 9:08 ` Rainer Thiel 2012-08-27 12:30 ` AW 2013-01-18 10:34 Wish: switch active time-stamps to inactive when CANCELED Karl Voit 2013-01-18 11:04 ` Daimrod 2013-01-18 11:08 ` Karl Voit 2013-01-18 11:24 ` Daimrod 2013-01-18 21:22 ` Karl Voit 2013-01-18 21:59 ` Viktor Rosenfeld 2013-01-18 22:50 ` Daimrod 2013-01-20 15:39 ` Karl Voit 2013-01-23 13:18 ` Bastien 2013-01-23 17:21 ` Viktor Rosenfeld 2013-01-24 14:11 ` Bastien 2013-01-18 23:10 ` Samuel Wales 2013-01-26 11:06 ` Bastien
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